Hello Manu
Manu Sporny wrote:
Martin McEvoy wrote:
Scott Has informed me that item and fn cant share the same class so
more Tracks
<p class="haudio">
I like the songs <span class="item"><span class="fn">Everything in Its
Right Place</span></span> and <span class="item"><span class="fn">The
National Anthem </span></span>
from the <span class="audio-title">Kid A</span> album
</p>
A podcast,
<div class="haudio">
<h1 class="audio title">My Latest Episode</h1>
<p>In four Parts</p>
<ol>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 1</span>, duration <span
class="duration">10:15</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 2</span>, duration <span
class="duration">08:15</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 3</span>, duration <span
class="duration">09:05</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 4</span>, duration <span
class="duration">12:33</span></li>
</ol>
</div>
Your podcast example has exactly the same semantics associated with it
as your album example. Take a closer look at the structure of both, they
are:
haudio
item
fn
item
fn
audio-title
haudio
audio-title
item
fn
duration
item
fn
duration
item
fn
duration
item
fn
duration
Looking at the structure, not the data. How can you say one is an album
and the other is a podcast? There is no way to deduce this information
from the mark-up. Have I understood your approach correctly?
Ahh! I think I know where our misunderstanding is.
I think it has something to do with what our basic concept of an Album
is and how type or subtypes are marked up implicitly, by implicit I mean
only suggesting or giving the general idea that what we are talking
about is a hAudio album.
take this example using the current proposed method
<div class="haudio">
<h1 class="fn album">My Latest Episode</h1>
<p>In four Parts</p>
<ol>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 1</span>, duration <span
class="duration">10:15</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 2</span>, duration <span
class="duration">08:15</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 3</span>, duration <span
class="duration">09:05</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 4</span>, duration <span
class="duration">12:33</span></li>
</ol>
</div>
you are explicitly requiring me to mark up my podcast as an album? when in fact
it is not!
You are trying to set the type of hAudio (The Object) as an Album but it just
doesn't seem to work, its too restrictive you are requiring every author to
mark up their haudio explicitly as an Album? which in the above example is not
correct.
The reality is that it is the blogging community that is likely to adopt hAudio
first before any corporate adoption, from a business perspective it would cost
too much for say Apple iTunes (and many other major music download stores) to
test and deploy hAudio on its music stores, I has to be tested first, In the
case of Microformats Community its usually by publishers of Blogs that do the
testing first, So to simply ignore the early adopters of hAudio seems like
folly.
How about giving the publisher or author the option to describe what the
contents of haudio are?
an Idea something to talk about Not a proposal:
<div class="haudio">
<h1 class="type" title="podcast">
<span class="fn">My Latest Episode</span>
</h1>
<p>In four Parts</p>
<ol>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 1</span>, duration <span
class="duration">10:15</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 2</span>, duration <span
class="duration">08:15</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 3</span>, duration <span
class="duration">09:05</span></li>
<li class="item"><span class="fn">Part 4</span>, duration <span
class="duration">12:33</span></li>
</ol>
</div>
A relatively new concept I know, @title represents the authors interpretation
of what the hAudio object may be about, not a set type a free form Microformat?
the only thing I do not know is if this is possible?, or if the semantics are
correct they seem to be, but the only example of type being set by @title is in
hReview but is done with the abbr design pattern...
...
<abbr class="type" title="business">
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cafe"; rel="tag">cafe</a></abbr>
...
http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Multidimensional_Restaurant_Review
which seems a bit like an abuse of the abbr design pattern to me ? is
cafe an abbreviation of buisness maybe I dont know?
Thoughts ?
Thanks
Martin McEvoy
Adwords Media
http://adwords-media.co.uk/
-- manu
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