On [Aug 14], at [ Aug 14] 5:22 , Martin McEvoy wrote:

Is the  "item" property in haudio MFO?

Item

*The element /MUST/ be processed opaquely. No sub-elements should be read from any hAudio contained in a track element.

http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio#Item

... or am I misunderstanding the "microformat object(opaque)" problem.

Item solves a small part of the problem MFO proposes to solve. Item has an opacity rule for embedding hAudio within hAudio. MFO would provide a similar rule for embedding anything within anything else. By detaching the opacity indicator from a specific microformat, MFO would have the advantages of being usable for embedding future microformats. For example, hAtom has no rule for opacity of embedded hAudio, and it couldn't possibly have such a rule because hAudio did not exist when hAtom was created. Because both use "published," this leaves room for ambiguity MFO would remove.

MFO also has the advantage of decoupling opacity from other semantics. Item makes it impossible to embed another hAudio with a shared name, but MFO would make that possible by giving the publisher more control over describing the meaning of their content. This could reduce unnecessary duplication, for example, in describing single- track album releases.

The documented real-world examples with widely-published microformats are, of course, far more relevant than the above hypothetical examples with nascent hAudio:

http://microformats.org/wiki/mfo#Examples

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Scott Reynen
MakeDataMakeSense.com


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