----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Aidulis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [solar-ac] Re: auto a/c system directly driven by small 
waterpowered turbine


I am not an expert on compresor air conditioning  but from my experiance  of
being in cars with them fitted most seem to work eficantly at engine ideling
speed or just a bit over  as most computer cars seem to bump the idle speed
up a litte when the air con is switched on . i havent done any exact
measurements on pully sizes but just from observation i am gueseing that
they are slightly geared up from the engine crank shaft  posibly around  1to
1.5   but that could easily be determined by a quick measurement of an
existing set up and doing a quick calculation .

So asuming that  the motor idle speed is around 500 to 700 rpm then
compresor speed would be around  750 to 1050 rpm  what horse power they
consume  i am not sure of  but some one more in the field would be able to
tell you .

As for just takeing  a complete system out of a car and driveing it off your
turbine  i cant  see why it wouldnt work if you have  it geared down to suit
the compresor speed and have enough horse power to run it . Im gueseing you
will need between 1.5 to 3 hp   depending on the type and size of compresor
.
I had some friends who lived on an Island off the Australian Queensland
coast . They had a car air compresor  set up on a 6 hp Southern Cross
diesle engine  which  they ran for aproximatly 4 hours per day    and it
was conected to a huge freezer   around 8 ft long by 3 ft deep x 4 wide . It
also ran a 32 volt generator into bateries for night time lighting .They
used to freeze their fish  catch with it  until they had enough to take to
the main land for sale. They had to run it longer  hours when it was first
loaded with fish  though .
So i guesing that you would not have any problems geting below 0 celcius
with a car type air conditioner compresor  .Also if you use some of your
exausted water flow from the turbine  to cool the condensor  it would be
quite more efficant  .My friends set up was air cooled and some days the air
temp would be over 40 c in summer.

Cheers Andrew Aidulis  (solar air con project Brisbane Australia )
>From: davis ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [solar-ac] Re: auto a/c system directly driven by small
>waterpowered turbine
>Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:58:35 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>    I don't think that I received a clear answer to my
>question. Could one simply remove a functioning air
>conditioning system from a car and use it as a
>stationary refrigeration unit driven by a turbine?
>   What would be the ideal rpm to run the compressor?
>   If one didn't have enough power for maximum output,
>could you run it slower?
>    Would it be advantageous to use a water jacket over
>the condenser coils?
>  Would it be possible to gettemperatures below
>freezing ?
>
>--- Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Look into a cooling system from a refridgerated semi
> > trailer.  They are
> > usually powered by a small diesel engine which may
> > be swapped out for
> > you turbine.  You may find one with the evaporator
> > and condensor on the
> > same chasis and still have all the freon in it. Used
> > ones here are $1500
> > CAN and up depending on condition.  The diesel would
> > be easy to sell on
> > a bio diesel board.
> >
> > Ken
> >
>
>
>
>
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