your caculations are correct. I know that I have a very low amount of power 
system. I suspect that the pressure is well over 30psi. I will have to check 
that value. It was nothing more than an estimate at this point, it is probably 
well above that value, closer to 80psi, but until i get a hard value I will let 
you know. I will get an accurate pressure reading on the system and get back to 
you. I remeasured the flow at 3gpm. 
 
I do not intend on the system being capable of powering much. It is much more 
intended to just sit and charge a lead acid battery. 
 
Thanks for the input and the math. Upon getting more accurate system values I 
will get back to you all. Thanks for the input. 
 
Rick

HYDRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rick:

2 GPM = 0.126 liter/sec
30 PSI = 69.28 feet = 21.1 meters

The gross energy available  is

Watts= liter/sec * Head(meters) * gravity (9.81)

Watts = 0.126 * 21 * 9.81 = 26 watts  BUT    We need to consider 
efficiencies and  for such small system you may get around 45 % ( may be 40 
%) for a total of 26 * 0.45 = 11.7 watts

I am wondering if you made a mistake with the water volume, since you are 
planning to use a Francis Turbine or even a Pump in reverse mode.

You may, as well, forget about the pump, the parameters for a pump are 
critical and your site is well "UNDER critical".

So, can you clarify your parameters and your plans, as well ?

Nando

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: [microhydro] low flow med-high pressure turbine? what to use?


> Greetings,
> I will admit that I am fairly new to this list but I have an
> interesting supply. I have the ability to get a water stream at
> about 2-3 GPM but at about 30PSI (sometimes higher if the rains have
> been good like they have this past month, which is bad for hiking,
> but whatever). I am a mechanical engineer and am planning on setting
> up a small, portable unit for charging up some 12v lead acid
> batteries off of it.
>
> Most of the online documentation I have seen regards high flow rates
> but low head pressures. I am at the other end of the spectrum, I
> have a pretty decent pressure but very low flow. I am guessing that
> I will be able to use either a francis turbine or a impulse turbine
> of some sort.
>
> Then I am planning on at least starting with a DC motor and using
> that as a generator. I will work on the electronics in the near
> future but right now I have to figure out what type of turbine to
> use. The cheapest and maybe the most easily obtained turbine of this
> sort would actually be a centripetal pump used as a turbine. I have
> found a few websites discussing this setup, however they are all on
> a large flow rate.
>
> Since this low flow higher pressure is abnormal I haven't been able
> to find much to go off of. What would you guys (and gals) suggest I
> use as a turbine? I really don't know, Sort of going out and trying
> out all kinds of different centripetal pumps I am not sure where to
> start, or even look.
>
> Any turbine help or suggestion would greatly be appreciated! thanks
> a lot!
>
> Rick
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