I am so proud of my self...I got he following to work all by myself...and 
on a monday morning too! I don't seem to be able to get it to read a :f or 
:h for the text formatting...any suggestions?

<?php
  $lst = mgd_list_topics(553);
  if(!$lst) {
     echo "mgd_list_topics(553) failed.<br>";
     echo "reason: " . mgd_errstr();
  }else{
     while($lst->fetch()){
 echo  "<p>". $lst->name. "<br>";
$topicsub=$lst->id;
$topicS=mgd_list_topics($topicsub);
if(!$topicS){
echo $lst->description."<br>";
}else{
  while($topicS->fetch()){
echo $topicS->name."<br>";
echo $topicS->description."<br>";
}echo "</p>";
     }
  }
?>


kp



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