I did get that request from Henri, he had sent it to me as well and I put 
them on the list, I think they may not have gotten that last one but as I 
am redoing the template I will hard code them into the revisions......the 
first line of this release was probably ill advised on my part...(it only 
went to the list) I had just meant the hue and cry from this week's MWS 
being late was not happening, I have to remind myself to keep feeble 
attempts at sarcasm, no matter how well intended, to a minimum...

For news...I am working with Armand on an upgrade pitfalls/tutorial 
article. I am also working on a site redesign announcement, partly to start 
to talk about what requirements we have started to develop and also to ask 
for community input.

I will send a template along in a few days for your feedback, we might also 
take this opportunity to think about other places we could send the 
news...maybe mainstream pubs or some of the distros. I am, admittedly, 
still a little fixated on pushing Midgard to some of the big Corp. types, I 
am a little biased, but I think approaching Apple could have a lot of 
benefits. I think some sort of corp endorsement, if we are wicked careful 
to preserve our independence, could do a lot for the community. I happened 
upon a listing of web application servers the other day 
(http://webdev.bsp.no/Web_development/Programming/Publishing_platforms/) 
 which listed IBM Webshere, Spectra, us, and Zope...not bad, ( not a very 
complete list but that's not my problem) as I was trying to suggest to 
Emile the other day, we don't do what webshere does but there is cross over 
and in that cross over is a chance for us to compete and build the midgard 
brand, other than the fact that we all want to build something cool and 
like to compete, the strength of the Midgard brand and its desirability is 
where its value lies, for us as individuals and for Aurora et al.....off 
soap box....( the midgard community is a pretty huge value add for me as 
well...I should not let that go unsaid)


Anyway...back to work...weeee!

kp
-----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, September 22, 2000 2:47 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: [midgard] MWS....

Hi Ken,

> The volume of e-mail asking for the MWS has been, well, non-existent.

Did you recieve the letter from Henri that I forwarded to you? It was
concerning another Linux Publisher (online) who is interested in
publishing the MWS. If you look at some of the current publishers, you'll
notice that the MWS does recieve a fair number of reads. I've seen issues
reported with 450 reads, that's damned good.

>In any case the MWS is taking a short, planned, vacation while we rethink
>the format of the template and move the publication to a biweekly format.

I encourage you to make changes as you see fit. IMO, The contact
information should not refer to Henri. It should refer to our Mailing list
by stating, "If you want to publish MWS contact [EMAIL PROTECTED],
subject "Publishing." If we suggest contacting individuals it'll lead to
the same thing we have now, Henri is on a leave and can't consistently
reply. If letters go to the list, one of us will catch and respond.

IMO, The top paragraph can be the standard letter from the Editor. In this
location you could include contact ken@ for story contributions, etc.

J-P has suggested that there's little reason to tell where the letter is
being published. I agree and that all bad info detracts from good info.

J-P made suggestions for a couple items to include; mailing list
subscription-very brief "Subscribe to mailing lists by..." I don't recall
his other idea.

At this point, I haven't got anymore story ideas. You've covered state of
development and don't need to beat a dead horse. The subsequent story is
the release. Because MWS is a letter and not a news reporting daily, I
think your idea for Howto columns is appropriate.

While
> it is certainly reasonable to expect weekly updates when news warrants,
> there are a few of us who feel like the quality of the writing and
> information should improve given a little more time.

You're the editor and as I understand publishing rags, that means it's
your call. I believe that the MWS doesn't warrant weekly releases. It's
time consuming to release a useful version and I think you'll burn out.
Quality news doesn't exist on a weekly basis, unless you redesign to
include a howto column.

Bottom line, I'm damned glad you're working on MWS. It's a tough job. I
attended a meeting for another Content Management wannabee and the CEO
said, "There's no Open Source Content Management system," read with
condescending voice, "well, there's Midgard but they disappeared for a
couple months and now they're back." He was referring to MWS having
dissapeared, the MGD development project has never wavered. This tells me
MWS is one of our indicators to the public. I'm sure the CEO reads it. The
fact that he has read and followed our development is very interesting to
me. Part of his job is to assess the competition and he definitely views
us in that light.

Armand, with Emile's assistance, has almost concluded the first phase of
the migration. He'll have news about our expanding Network and Mirrors.
It's damned cool to see us growing and these guys are doing a fine job.
With the migration nearing implimentation, we'll try to get the
Annotations running on J-P's 2.0 White Paper. We'll put of the site
redesign Requirements doc in the Annotation. David has been working on
Asgard and will probably release it within a week or two. Rumor has it,
Alexander has been looking at Repligard. Francois has resumed the work of
writing an install script which I've tested on RH6.1 and Mandrake. It
succeded in both cases. Again, with the migration, we'll be able to make
the script available for testing purposes only.

Anyway, In your next release I'd advise that the editor's statement
explain what your redesign is going to be and why you're redesigning.
Moving to biweekly is a redesign. This is a normal publication
announcement.

Those are my thoughts, they come free of charge, 'cause day aint wert
nutin and nobody can stop me, it's the internet.

Ron

> As always, if you have an opinion about this drop me an e-mail and let me
> know.
>
> Ken Pooley
> Editor
> Midgard (bi)Weekly Summary
>
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