On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:15 PM, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I have to add I'm now quite confused why we are even having these motivation 
> discussions, as the charter was already agreed quite some time ago. We are 
> actually even late:

The fact that this is in the MIF charter does not mean that there is consensus 
within the IETF to proceed with it.   That is why we are having this 
conversation now.

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