Good try with the "told by by much older pilots." TR ----------------------------------------
*From: *ERIC Smith via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> *To: *mifnet@lists.mifnet.com *CC: *ERIC Smith <j...@comcast.net> *Date: *Jun 17, 2025 16:21:58 *Subject: *[Mifnet 🛰 72753] Re: dipshits and turbojet-powered trains > I was told by much older pilots that if you were flying an overhead pattern > in an F-80 or F-86 and pulled the power to idle when you commenced your final > turn, your engines would not spool up to full power again before you crossed > the runway threshold. > > Eric >> On 06/16/2025 5:47 AM EDT Joseph Corrao via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> It’s easy to see that turbine lag would have been very problematic for race >> cars in the 1960s (although Granatelli’s didn’t seem particularly troubled >> at Indy). But today, couldn’t the electric tech like that on on contemporary >> hybrids be applied to address that problem? (And haven’t contemporary small >> turbines addressed lag reasonably well, also?) >> >> I’m thinking a turbine class, or maybe a more general “novel propulsion” >> class, might be a very interesting addition to Indy, F1, and other >> advanced-tech forms of auto racing. Thoughts? >> >> JoeC. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 16, 2025, at 5:06 AM, srbrown via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The world landspeed record and first supersonic car was a Rolls-Royce >>> Spey-powered machine. Called the Thrust SSC. An F4 cohort of mine drove it. >>> >>> And survived. >>> >>> <.EmailTempImageHEV_1750055404724.jpg> >>> >>> Formula 1 racing in the 70s also had a contender. An idea I think derived >>> from the Le Man's contenders. The Lotus 56B had a Pratt & Whitney engine. >>> Emerson Fittipaldi drive it. >>> <.EmailTempImageHEV_1750055503430.jpg> >>> >>> Turbine lag can also plague aircraft needing to go around, of course, and >>> also spooling up for take-off. Hence setting about half power on the runway >>> to let the engines catch up with each other before smoothly advancing them >>> to take-off power. Likewise high flap settings on approach which means the >>> engine rpm stays at a higher setting for better response in case a quick >>> getaway becomes the order of the day. >>> >>> (Scott has got me doing a comma count now. Damn.) >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: RWM--- via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> >>> Date: 15/06/2025 20:40 (GMT+02:00) >>> To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com >>> Cc: "r...@rwmann.com" <r...@rwmann.com> >>> Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 72712] Re: dipshits and turbojet-powered trains >>> >>> As did the Rover-BRM (1963-1965), including a win in the Experimental class >>> at the Le Mans 24 Hour race, and the Howmet TX (1968) in SCCA (U.S. >>> National) and international long distance sports car racing. >>> >>> - Bob Mann >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 15, 2025, at 13:23, Joseph Corrao via Mifnet >>>> <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Andy Granatelli's 1967 Indy car made quite an impression too. >>>> >>>> STP-Paxton Turbocar, >>>> 1967[https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object/nmah_882080] >>>> americanhistory.si.edu[https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object/nmah_882080] >>>> >>>> JoeC. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Jun 15, 2025, at 12:59 PM, Jack Keady via Mifnet >>>>> <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> keady >>>>> >>>>> Chrysler had a bit more success, with their turbine cars: >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 9:03 AM Karl L. 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