I'll ride shotgun for you, Eric, as EU laws make me too old to fly 
commercially.Unless you can do it with a CPL and Class 2 medical.Simon
-------- Original message --------From: ERIC Smith via Mifnet 
<mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Date: 25/08/2025  19:30  (GMT+00:00) To: 
"<mifnet@lists.mifnet.com>" <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Cc: ERIC Smith 
<j...@comcast.net> Subject: [Mifnet đź›° 73796] Retirement Job 
  
   It isn't unusual for airline pilots to retire then find another flying job 
for a time. Many end up at Netjets but few of them last more than a year there. 
   
  
    
   
  
   Up until now I haven't been interested but something just caught my eye.
   
  
    
   
  
   Eric
   
  
    
   
  
   
https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraine-russia-drone-hunting-e2fea5fc?mod=hp_trendingnow_article_pos4
   
  
    
   
   
    
    Hunting Russian Drones in a Prop Plane With Shotguns and Rifles 
    
    
    Ukrainian defenders use an array of unusual methods to fend off attacks 
while preserving stockpiles of more advanced tools 
    
      
     
     
     
      This month, a beaten-up, Soviet-era propeller-driven plane taxied to a 
halt on a rural runway and two of Ukraine’s top air aces clambered out, one 
carrying a rifle. The pair, clad in olive-drab flight suits, are part of a 
low-tech solution to the high-tech problem of Russian drones.
      
     
       
      
      
      
       The 56-year-old pilot, who learned to fly as a hobby before the war, and 
the gunner, 38, a former auto mechanic who had never been in a plane before the 
invasion, are part of a squadron dedicated to knocking down the unmanned 
Russian attack and reconnaissance aircraft that are the bane of ground troops 
and civilians.
       
      
        
       
      
       In the past year, these two unlikely air warriors have flown around 300 
combat missions as part of the 11th Army Aviation Brigade and downed almost 
half the unit’s total of 120 drones eliminated, according to its deputy 
commander, Col. Mykola Lykhatskiy.
       
      
        
       
       
       
        Ukraine has some of the West’s most advanced air defenses, including 
the Patriot missile system. It also has F-16 jets that it sometimes uses to 
down missiles and drones. But it has also developed a series of lower-cost 
tactics to counter the threat from the skies, ranging from nets to signal 
jamming.
        
       
         
        
       
        Soldiers and volunteers also man pickup truck-mounted heavy machine 
guns to try to take out explosive-laden Shahed drones. Others use vintage 
Soviet missiles fired from launchers made out of reused shipping containers.
        
       
         
        
       
        Then there are the men and flying machines of the 11th. When a drone 
appears on military radar screens, crews scramble to their two-seater Yak-52 
trainers, with a sliding glass canopy reminiscent of World War II fighters. 
Usually, they are airborne within 15 minutes.
        
       
         
        
        
        
         Their squadron has brought military aviation back to its very 
beginnings in World War I, engaging the enemy at close range with a marksman 
leaning out of his cockpit with a gun.
         
        
          
         
        
         The Yak-52 is so basic that it has no radar of its own and has to fly 
in the daytime, when the crew is guided by radio before visual contact. Their 
cockpit gets so cold in the winter they need thick jackets, gloves and 
old-school, fur-lined flying helmets.
         
        
          
         
         
         
          Pilots sit near their planes waiting for the command to scramble. 
Like World War II pilots, they stencil drones they have shot down onto the side 
of their plane, which was later destroyed in a Russian missile attack on their 
air base. They now have another Yak.
          
         
           
          
         
          Their main targets are Orlan and Zala reconnaissance drones, and 
Shahed explosive drones. The propeller-driven Orlan and Zala look like a 
miniature plane and kite, respectively, while the distinctive triangular shape 
of the Shahed has become one of the most recognizable sights of this war. The 
propeller-powered models of these drones fly at speeds of up to 115 miles an 
hour, making them easy to chase for the Yak, which can fly at over 180 miles an 
hour.
          
         
           
          
         
          The successes of these planes and helicopters account for around 10% 
to 12% of the drones intercepted by Ukraine on a typical day, said Lykhatskiy.
          
         
           
          
          
           
           
             
            
            
            
             Last month, around 11% of all long-range drones launched by Russia 
got through Ukraine’s air defenses, according to data analyzed by the Center 
for Information Resilience, a U.K.-based open-source investigations 
organization.
             
            
              
             
            
             The Ukrainian prop planes will typically fly within 200 to 300 
feet of the drone before the gunner opens the canopy, leans out and fires.
             
            
              
             
            
             “There is such great new technology now, yet I am still hanging 
out of the cockpit shooting at drones with a shotgun,” said the auto 
mechanic-turned gunner. He likened the experience to shooting a gun while 
riding a horse. The gunner has tried a number of weapons and currently favors a 
German Haenel MK55 automatic rifle.
             
             Sometimes pilots get so close they can use their plane’s wings to 
tilt the drone’s wings and send it off course, said Lykhatskiy. British pilots 
used that tactic in World War II against Germany’s V-1, widely considered the 
world’s first missile.
             
            
              
             
            
              
             
            
           
          
         
        
       
      
     
    
  
 
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