Scott, returning to SFO from Europe earlier this month, we did not have to show our global pass cards. Phil Roberts
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 8:23 AM F. Scott Wilson via Mifnet < mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: > A few months ago there were some reflections on the Mifnet about the new > US online passport renewal program. I joined the chorus of voices marveling > at the efficiency of the new program. > > Yesterday I discovered a glitch. Arriving at JFK from Europe on Delta, I > made first use of my new passport at a Global Entry kiosk. It was the > first time I’d attempted to use Global Entry in two years. Apparently you > do not now use your passport at the kiosk, rather you merely pose for a > face scan. As soon as my face scan was complete, red exclamation points > appeared, and I was immediately directed by a CPB agent to the regular > inbound immigration line reserved for arriving diplomats. > > After an annoying long 15-minute wait while a couple ahead of us > negotiated at length with the agent (my wife guessed it was a recently > married couple dealing with a name change), the agent tapped away for a few > minutes and then directed me to a separate bullpen area where problems are > dealt with. I asked him what the problem was; he responded by asking me > I’d recently lost my passport. I said I had not. > > I won’t say the bullpen was a hostile environment but it was clear the > agents there would not be forthcoming about what my problem was. After > waiting another 10-15 minutes in silence (and worry), my name was called > and I was given my passport with approval to enter the US. No explanation > was provided, so I asked. It turns out that the online passport renewal > process did not include the voiding of my prior passport, which as of > yesterday had not yet reached its original expiration date, so the system > was apparently showing me as possessing two valid US passports. > > Recall that the new online process does not include the return of your > existing US passport - they don’t want them. In the old days a renewal > applicant surrendered their existing passport as a part of the renewal > application process, and it was later returned to the renewal applicant > clearly voided by holes punched in the cover. Either the new online renewal > process does not include a process step for voiding one’s prior passport, > or they missed that step in my case. I am curious to know if any Mifnetters > have had a similar experience. > > Also, are you now required to show your plastic Global Entry card in > addition to or in lieu of your passport as a part of the Global Entry > process? > > Scott > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Revised: 20250507 > > You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. > > The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't > exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small contribution to the > effort, please know that it would be greatly appreciated: > https://wardell.us/url/mifbit > > All posts sent to the list should abide by these policies: > > 1) List members acknowledge that participation in Mifnet is a > privilege--not a right. > 2) Posts are always off the record, absent specific permission from the > author. > 3) The tone of discussions is collegial. > 4) Posts are expected to be in reasonably good taste. > 5) We discuss ideas and not personalities, and we don't speak ill of other > Mifnet members. > > * The Mifnet WEB SITE is: > https://www.mifnet.com/ > > * To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at any time please visit: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > OR: SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: > mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=leave > > * Send Mifnet mailing list POSTS/SUBMISSIONS to: > mifnet@lists.mifnet.com > > * You may reach the person managing The Mifnet at: > mifnet-ow...@lists.mifnet.com > > * Please consider the DIGEST version of The Mifnet, which consolidates all > list traffic into 1-3 > messages daily. See instructions at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > > * Manage your personal Mifnet SUBSCRIPTION at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > > * For a list of all available Mifnet commands, SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: > mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=help > > * View The Mifnet LIST POLICIES and PRIVACY POLICY at: > https://mifnet.com/index.php/policies > > * View instructions for Mifnet DELIVERY PROBLEMS at: > https://mifnet.com/index.php/delivery-problems > > * View The Mifnet LIST ARCHIVE at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/hyperkitty/list/mifnet@lists.mifnet.com/ >
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