Based on what I've seen from the airlines, the airlines are managing the cancellations based on their business needs. Although a friend just had a flight cancelled while they were on it and it was due to no controllers available for that routing, whatever that means.
Kerwin Passrider.com On Sat, Nov 8, 2025, 5:45β―PM Doug Church via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote: > Itβs not 20% β¦ yet. > > Itβs 4% currently. If no end to the shutdown next week, it will rise to 6% > on Tuesday, Nov. 11, then 8% on Thursday, Nov. 13 and 10% on Friday, Nov. > 14. > > Iβm not aware of the analysis used other than DOT working with the FAA > safety team to determine the appropriate level of cuts to ensure safety can > be maintained with expected high levels of controller understaffing > continuing the longer they are under extreme stress and fatigue. > > -Doug Church > > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2025 at 5:50β―PM ATHGroup--- via Mifnet < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Does anyone know how FAA came up with the 20% target? >> >> Was there any analysis based on actual controller staffing or was it just >> a guess? >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> R. Michael Baiada >> >> cell - (303) 521-6047 >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> *From:* Doug Church <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2025 13:04 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [Mifnet π° 74670] Flight Cancellations >> >> >> >> Michael, >> >> >> >> My understanding is each airline is cancelling their flights based on >> their internal business criteria to meet the FAA's order. >> >> >> >> -Doug Church >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2025 at 3:09β―PM ATHGroup--- via Mifnet < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Does anyone know who is cancelling the flights during the shutdown >> cutback? >> >> >> >> Is it each airlines cancelling their flights based on their internal >> business criteria to meet the FAA cancel goal, or is it the FAA cancelling >> the individual flights without regard to any of the airlineβs business >> interests? >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> R. 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