"That determined" - how do we know what the motivations were? Maybe he was trying to find baggage claim.
Regardless, it is a serious security breach. What if it were five guys with bazookas? TR ---------------------------------------- *From: *Doug Church <[email protected]> *To: *[email protected] *CC: *Tom Ronell <[email protected]> *Date: *2026-05-12T18:26:48Z *Subject: *Re: [Mifnet 🛰 76142] Re: over cautious maybe? > Not ironic at all. Both statements can be true. > > But -- C'mon now TR ... how in the world are you going to stop someone that > determined from getting onto that parcel of land the size of Manhattan? > > I really would like someone to explain that to me if they can. Build a taller > fence? More barbed wire? How much is that going to cost for the many, many > miles of fencing at that airport. It is a gargantuan size of land on which > the airport sits. > > Obviously you never want to see that happen. It threatened the safety of that > aircraft. Unacceptable. But I just don't see how you realistically guard > against that possibility with 100% guaranteed success rate? > > -Doug > > On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 2:22 PM Tom Ronell via Mifnet > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> "Great job by Frontier and the Denver airport security folks." >> >> >> There's an ironic statement, given the pedestrian that was sucked into the >> Frontier engine on the runway, during take-off. >> >> TR >> >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> >> *From: *Doug Church via Mifnet <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *CC: *Jack Keady <[email protected]>; Doug Church <[email protected]> >> *Date: *2026-05-12T17:09:18Z >> *Subject: *[Mifnet 🛰 76141] Re: over cautious maybe? >> >>> I do not believe we can be cautious enough in this day and age. I applaud >>> all levels of caution, especially where guns and ammo around aviation are >>> concerned. Easy for me to say, not having to have endured the inconvenience >>> that those passengers did. Obvious caveat there. >>> >>> Great job by Frontier and the Denver airport security folks. >>> >>> -Doug Church >>> >>> On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 1:03 PM Jack Keady via Mifnet >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> keady >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gun magazine found on Frontier Airlines flight, passengers forced to >>>> deplane* >>>> >>>> >>>> Passengers on a Frontier Airlines flight were forced to deplane at the >>>> gate Sunday evening in Denver after an ammunition magazine was found on >>>> the aircraft as it was preparing for departure, according to the airline. >>>> Frontier says preliminary investigation indicates the magazine belongs to >>>> a law enforcement officer who may have left it behind on a previous >>>> flight. All passengers were deplaned and rescreened out of precaution, and >>>> the plane also went through a security sweep, and nothing additional was >>>> recovered from the flight, according to the airline. _*Ayesha Ali/ABC >>>> News[https://ytezitcab.cc.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tBTFiTCEznuyUrukUWmWdjYQ71jbO0hzJMez327GXE7r8WkzzfoYA6TaRmtqYTpF_7DjAOFQkn6-nk78AB61bALsgwn8hFQ7RZeZJiOuwhE5zzflp7Fxkgf-WyYxRneN-otvt7mG4F1gvUz51xgRdgAVDeuQeQLHVnyFtwrvb3i0ld3_f-PTMsS6hm_Ak0Bt4xpcJd7gHPPKXKymOULO-XmHZ79F5r--KVNfIuopHpw13HJn275YHnozZVKoHoljBwmaYHwFd5M=&c=Q6HIDoAKsf20pTqvLR4V2t-4uBxKSNOM7JqcIyKv496aj23pC68Zpg==&ch=-l0CsZjpCJqsnEKnp_dZt59eAhGeqnLo9MXIFbInU7Pvfw5_zGsVnA==]*_ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gun magazine found on Frontier Airlines flight, passengers forced to >>>> dep...* >>>> >>>> ABC News >>>> Passengers on a Frontier Airlines flight were forced to deplane at the >>>> gate after an ammunition magazine was fou... >>>> >>>> [https://ytezitcab.cc.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tBTFiTCEznuyUrukUWmWdjYQ71jbO0hzJMez327GXE7r8WkzzfoYA6TaRmtqYTpF_7DjAOFQkn6-nk78AB61bALsgwn8hFQ7RZeZJiOuwhE5zzflp7Fxkgf-WyYxRneN-otvt7mG4F1gvUz51xgRdgAVDeuQeQLHVnyFtwrvb3i0ld3_f-PTMsS6hm_Ak0Bt4xpcJd7gHPPKXKymOULO-XmHZ79F5r--KVNfIuopHpw13HJn275YHnozZVKoHoljBwmaYHwFd5M=&c=Q6HIDoAKsf20pTqvLR4V2t-4uBxKSNOM7JqcIyKv496aj23pC68Zpg==&ch=-l0CsZjpCJqsnEKnp_dZt59eAhGeqnLo9MXIFbInU7Pvfw5_zGsVnA==] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Revised: 20250507 >>>> >>>> You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. >>>> >>>> The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't >>>> exactly cost-free. 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