...where I witnessed him telling an astounded GE salesman named Jim Rafael that the CFM56 was "a throw-away engine" not worth repairing once it comes off the wing. Apparently, my bursting out laughing did not support the intended drama of the moment.
Rafael was an accomplished salesman who broke Northwest's long Pratt-only tradition after Don Nyrop famously said that he would never buy engines from the company that sold him light bulbs. I have a number of colorful Valeika stories from all three airlines - miss him! TR ---------------------------------------- *From: *Kathleen Boyd via Mifnet <[email protected]> *To: *[email protected] *CC: *Kathleen Boyd <[email protected]> *Date: *2026-05-21T19:19:46Z *Subject: *[Mifnet 🛰 76247] Re: UPS MD 11 crash > Ray also was with us at Continental Airlines. > > Kathleen A. Boyd >  > [email protected] > 713-306-4665[tel:713-306-4665] > www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenaboyd/[http://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenaboyd/] > >> On May 20, 2026, at 6:12 PM, Robert S. Distler via Mifnet >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>  >> Jack, That would've been Ray Valeika at Delta, ex-Pan Am >> >> Bob Distler >> >> >> >> Sent from my Galaxy >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Jack Keady via Mifnet <[email protected]> >> Date: 5/20/26 15:51 (GMT-08:00) >> To: David Wardell via Mifnet <[email protected]> >> Cc: Jack Keady <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 76243] UPS MD 11 crash >> >> keady - maybe i"m being too naive here* >> >> But - if Boeing issued a safety directive in 2011 or earlier, why didn't UPS >> do it, even if it was optional? >> >> In this day and age of redundancy and backups, how could one steel bearing >> destroy 13 lives? >> >> >> * remember Ray, our engineering guy from DL. Miss him >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Revised: 20250507 >> >> You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. >> >> The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't >> exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small contribution to the effort, >> please know that it would be greatly appreciated: >> https://wardell.us/url/mifbit >> >> All posts sent to the list should abide by these policies: >> >> 1) List members acknowledge that participation in Mifnet is a privilege--not >> a right. >> 2) Posts are always off the record, absent specific permission from the >> author. >> 3) The tone of discussions is collegial. >> 4) Posts are expected to be in reasonably good taste. >> 5) We discuss ideas and not personalities, and we don't speak ill of other >> Mifnet members. >> >> * The Mifnet WEB SITE is: >>  https://www.mifnet.com/ >> >> * To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at any time please visit: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/ >>  OR: SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: >> [email protected]?subject=leave >> >> * Send Mifnet mailing list POSTS/SUBMISSIONS to: >>  [email protected] >> >> * You may reach the person managing The Mifnet at: >>  [email protected] >> >> * Please consider the DIGEST version of The Mifnet, which consolidates all >> list traffic into 1-3 >>  messages daily. See instructions at: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/ >> >> * Manage your personal Mifnet SUBSCRIPTION at: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/ >> >> * For a list of all available Mifnet commands, SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: >>  [email protected]?subject=help >> >> * View The Mifnet LIST POLICIES and PRIVACY POLICY at: >>  https://mifnet.com/index.php/policies >> >> * View instructions for Mifnet DELIVERY PROBLEMS at: >>  https://mifnet.com/index.php/delivery-problems >> >> * View The Mifnet LIST ARCHIVE at: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/
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