Hi Kieth,

> The one-connection-per-http-session is certainly not scalable,
Agreed

> but my
> question is, how scalable does the application need to be?
I am also new to MifOS but I tend to lean towards a scalable solution.
MifOS is a rapidly maturing platform used in high load, concurrent
environments already. Scalability questions are bound to come up.

Cheers,
Dion

On Nov 16, 2007 2:44 PM, Keith Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The one-connection-per-http-session is certainly not scalable, but my
> question is, how scalable does the application need to be? At one end of the
> usage spectrum, application instances that only serve one user need not be
> scalable. At the other end, an app server instance that potentially services
> thousands of users.... It sounds like the GK scenario points to the latter.
>
> I'm pretty new to MifOS, and learning to navigate through project documents.
> Are there any documents/emails that discuss the anticipated usage patterns
> for MifOS and how those usage patterns translate into deployment strategies?
> For example, one server per center, serving all branches? Any help to wend
> my way through project notes would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Keith Pierce
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 2:23 PM, William Pietri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > j dailey wrote:
> > >  I defer to those now on the list to comment - Sam?  William? Terry?
> > >  Jim?  Tom? Alija?
> >
> > My hazy, hazy recollection, prompted by a note from Terry, is that there
> > was something a little unusual about how MIFOS handled Hibernate sessions.
> >
> > The normal way web apps work is to map a single HTTP request/response
> > cycle to one or more units of work from the database's perspective. So
> > as the request comes in, you get a connection from the connection pool,
> > you do some stuff, you commit it or roll it back, and you release the
> > connection. If you've got some user activity that runs across multiple
> > HTTP requests (like a wizard-style interface), you have to find ways to
> > bridge the different unit-of-work lifecycles.
> >
> > Another way to do things is to keep a database session (a connection,
> > possibly with an open transaction) around for as long as you have an
> > HTTP session. The upside is that you can have a database unit of work
> > match a user unit of work more easily. The downside is that this is
> > fragile and doesn't scale well.
> >
> > I think early on MIFOS used the latter model. I feel like we looked at
> > changing to the more standard approach, but there were some dependencies
> > on the connection-per-HTTP-session approach. What has happened since, I
> > have no idea. A quick search of my old email turns up nothing about
> > this, so either it was only discussed verbally or I'm thinking of some
> > other project entirely.
> >
> > If this connection-per-HTTP-session approach is in use on MIFOS, it
> > would produce intermittent failure under high load or other sorts of
> > heavy use, like doing MIFOS work in multiple tabs at once.
> >
> >
> > Regardless, sounds like we could use some load tests.
> >
> > William
> >
> >
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