Hi Sam,

Really, it is a good thing to see it that way. It is highly expected that to 
reduce the cost of penetration and operation in MF operations, the role of 
mobile banking is really great. Having seen what was done with Grameen Village 
Phone on one side and G Cash on the other side, it will be a good thing to 
follow this steps. While the MIFOS internal team may not be interested in the 
Mifos Mobile concept, I think the community can take a step to it. If you know 
the starting point, kindly point us to it. For others who may be interested, we 
may need to put in more efforts behind the scene.

Kindly let us see how we can kick off.

Thank you, 
Gbolahan Oshonubi 
Intelligent Network Services Ltd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mobile +234-8023175974 
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From: "Sam Birney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:38 PM
To: "Mifos functional discussions" <mifos-functional@lists.sourceforge.net>, 
Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Mifos-developer] Mifos Mobile 

The community input towards a mobile banking interface to Mifos keeps growing.  
There seem to be several different organizations interested in working on this. 
 This would be great functionality to add to Mifos, although the internal team 
may not be able to focus on it as a feature area during 2008, we will be 
working on APIs to provide clean support and upgrade paths for this type of 
interface in the future and more.  

Tim Wood and Aarti Sharma, who are working on Grameen's Village Phone project, 
are also very interested in getting to a proof of concept and eventual full 
implementation of mobile banking with Mifos.  I think Tim has done some work on 
defining some initial usage scenarios that he can share.

In the spirit of open source, perhaps all the interested groups can collaborate 
on coming up with a functional spec, initial technical design, and proof of 
concept.  I would recommend making a wiki page on mifos.org for the project.

As Van mentions, one thing to note is that our current Mifos API, such as it 
is, will likely change significantly between v1.1 and the next big release.  
Our hope is that after that, we will have a stable API, and be able to provide 
a smooth upgrade path for any changes to it.  Until then, keep in mind that the 
interface to Mifos APIs, or eventually Mifos web services layer, may need to be 
reworked later.  But I don't think this should stop anyone from thinking 
through the scenarios and design, and even a first implementation.

I will be interested to follow along with the development of this project, it 
sounds like an exciting step forward for Mifos.

regards,
Sam

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Van Mittal-Henkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello, 
  
Thanks for your interest in Mifos and for thinking about extending it into 
areas like mobile banking. 
  
Currently there is no clean API as such that Mifos exposes.  However, after the 
1.1 release of Mifos creating exactly that kind of API is on our list of things 
to do.  One of the prime motivations for creating a well documented API like 
this would be to support integration with mobile banking.   
  
In the coming months it is likely that there will be some significant changes 
to the internals of Mifos as we rewrite parts of the code in order to support a 
robust API.  It would be very useful to first try to get an understanding of 
what the requirements would be to support your mobile banking application.  We 
could then use that information to help guide our efforts as we define the 
Mifos API for integrating with other applications. 
  
Cheers, 
--Van 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gbolahan Oshonubi
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:37 AM

To: mifos-functional@lists.sourceforge.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: mifos-functional@lists.sourceforge.net

Subject: Re: [Mifos-functional] Adam- P2P Cash would like to assist in

Hi Tom,

Good to hear that. I was about to send the same message now till I saw yours. 
For mobile banking I am interested. We need to look at the various business 
models and to integrate it with Grameen model and MIFOS. In additions, there is 
another solution on using EFTPOS as one of the banking channels. We can get 
some codes and see how we can build on them. However, we need to know about 
MIFOS API for this or betterstill how to put the solutions together

Thank you, 
Gbolahan Oshonubi 
Intelligent Network Services Ltd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mobile +234-8023175974 
Remain blessed 

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From: "Adam Monsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:27 PM
To: "Tom Meredith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Mifos-functional] Adam- P2P Cash would like to assist in 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Tom Meredith wrote:
> developing a mobile banking interface to your code.
> How would you best suggest we start the process and is anyone else
> interested in assisting as well?

Hi Tom,

I would first suggest signing up on the mailing lists and joining the
IRC channel. This is the best way to keep abreast of community
activity with Mifos.

There isn't a functional spec for mobile banking that I know of, so
you might start with your own proof-of-concept. Here's how to get
started with the code:
http://mifos.org/developers

Looks like we've been thinking about this for a while:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.mifos.devel/1069

Cheers!
-Adam

-- 
Adam Monsen

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