Hello Anna Liza,
Welcome to the Mifos community! I hope your visit with Matt and Christopher
went well. Please follow up with any questions that you have regarding Mifos
and ASKI. A member of our team or an individual from the community will be
glad to help.
Go right ahead and ask away.
All the best,
Edward Cable
Mifos Marketing Coordinator
P.S. I've moved this over to the mifos-users mailing list.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Anna Liza L. Engracia <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Ms. Marie,
>
> I'm Anna Liza Engracia from ASKI, we just heard about MIFOS during PINOY ME
> seminar last 2006 and again last year. Mr. Christopher Tan and Matt Duncan
> already went here. I just have a few questions that I forgot to ask during
> their visit.
>
> Is it ok if I'll ask a few about MIFOS?
>
> Thanks
>
> Anna Liza Engracia
> ASKI IT OIC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marie Valdez [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:19 AM
> To: Developer
> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Mifos terminology
>
>
> Hi Carlos,
>
> Desculpe Senor. No habla Espanol. I am Filipino. I speak Tagalog only.
> ;)
>
> And I don't think we have a Spanish forum just yet. Hopefully someday.
>
> -Marie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Paredes [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:38 AM
> To: 'Developer'
> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Mifos terminology
>
> Hi Marie, you speck spanishs, I am from Peru, and the IMF of my country
> needs mifos solutions
>
> I speck English only a litte bit.
>
> Best
>
> Carlos Paredes
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Marie Valdez [mailto:[email protected]]
> Enviado el: Domingo, 25 de Enero de 2009 15:57
> Para: [email protected]; Developer; Emily Tucker
> Asunto: Re: [Mifos-developer] Mifos terminology
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Emily has known of my dislike for "product instance" since the beginning
> of time. In my mind, there is only product type and products.
>
> Product Type = Loans, Savings (current)
> = Someday, we can have => Shares, Insurance, etc.
>
> Product = An instance of the product type as described below.
>
> I remember not liking product instance with my argument as that
> is "code speak" but I have better argument now (I think :) ), which is:
> I have not heard any MFI say "I am creating an instance of my loan
> product". Instead, they just say "I am creating a new loan product".
>
>
> Just to add more, we also have product category, which is just a way to
> further group products and currently has no "financial calculation"
> functionality. I believe the hierarchy on products will be:
> Product Type > Product Category > Products
>
> -Marie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:47 AM
> To: Developer; Emily Tucker
> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Mifos terminology
>
> Excellent use of terminlogies, Van
>
> Regards.
>
> Kazeem
> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Van Mittal-Henkle" <[email protected]>
>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:54:35
> To: Emily Tucker<[email protected]>;
> Developer<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Mifos terminology
>
>
> Hi Emily,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> The other place to square things away is with the user interface.
> Looking there, we currently have references to "loan products" and
> "savings products".
>
> I also reread the function specification here:
> http://mifos.org/knowledge/functional-specifications/mfi-information-set
> up/product-definitions<http://mifos.org/knowledge/functional-specifications/mfi-information-setup/product-definitions>
> and see the references to "product", "product type" and "product
> instance".
>
> So let me see if I can summarize,
>
> * Mifos currently supports two "Products", "Loan Products" and "Savings
> Products".
> * A "Loan Product" is a "Product" of "Product Type" loan.
> * A "Savings Product" is a "Product" of "Product Type" savings.
> * A Mifos user can create a "Loan Product Instance" when they choose
> "Define new Loan Product" in Admin section of the user interface.
> * In the future we may introduce a new "Product Type" such as insurance
> and create a corresponding "Product" called "Insurance Product".
>
> Does that usage sound right?
>
> Cheers,
> --Van
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emily Tucker
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:55 PM
> To: Van Mittal-Henkle; 'Developer'
> Cc: Kay Chau
> Subject: RE: Mifos terminology
>
> Hi Van,
>
> So I believe in the functional spec, we use the following terminology:
>
> (*) Product type: ie, savings or loans (or, in the future-- shares,
> insurance, etc)
> (*) Product instance: This is a particular product offering-- a
> particular instance of a product that the MFI defines-- ie, Agricultural
> loan product, or a voluntary savings product.
>
> I'm not quite sure how "loan product"/"loan offering" are used in the
> code-- but would be good to match the language in the FS. You are
> right, though, "offering" is not a term we use at all-- so we certainly
> shouldn't use that!
>
> Thanks for bringing this up!
>
> (ps. I'm writing this on the plane-- and haven't downloaded email
> today-- so apologies if there have already been responses to this
> thread)
>
> Emily.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Van Mittal-Henkle
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:23 PM
> > To: Developer
> > Cc: Emily Tucker; Kay Chau
> > Subject: Mifos terminology
> >
> > As we work on improving Mifos, one thing we are striving for is
> > consistent use of terminology throughout the application user
> > interface, documentation and the code itself-- the so called
> > "ubiquitous language" of the application.
> >
> > One inconsistency that I have noticed has to do with the terms:
> > "loan product"
> > "loan offering"
> >
> > These terms all appear to refer to the same thing, but are all used in
>
> > various places within the code.
> >
> > I would like to confirm that they all do refer to the same thing and
> > if so which term we want to settle on. "loan product" is the term I
> > use most often and am most familiar with, is that what we'd like to
> use?
> >
> > A related question concerns:
> > "savings product"
> > "savings offering"
> >
> > Is "savings product" the right one here?
> >
> > And there is an associated "product offering" term which is used to
> > describe both loan and savings products. Is there some other term we
> > use for this like "financial product"? In any case, it would be good
> > to agree on a term that would cover both "loan products", "savings
> > products" and future services like "insurance products"?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --Van
>
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