---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Douglas Kurz <[email protected]>
Date: 20 August 2010 12:39
Subject: RE: [Mifos-users] Loan Interest
To: Polly Gikonyo <[email protected]>
Cc: paul mburu <[email protected]>, SAMUEL MBITHI <
[email protected]>, Esther lemeta <[email protected]>,
[email protected]


 Polly,

Thanks so much for forwarding this. We figured out the correct conversion to
input the interest and have now entered the loans for all our pilot group.
However, they will not disburse. I remember you mentioning there are some
batch processing jobs that need to be run each night. I looked all over the
mifos web site documentation, but did not see information on this. So a
couple questions:

1.       Is there some processes we should be running each evening that
posts the financial transactions? Can you tell us what those are or where
there is documentation about this?

2.       Once we get this running, will it disburse based upon the
disbursement date or the date on the server when the process runs? In other
words, we have entered all active loans for the group (which goes back 8
months), so we want it to disburse based upon the disbursement date. Do we
need to run the process once for each disbursement date or will a single run
disburse all loans on the right date?



Blessings and thanks for your guidance.

Doug



*From:* Ryan Whitney [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:20 AM
*To:* [email protected]; Douglas Kurz
*Cc:* paul mburu; SAMUEL MBITHI; Esther lemeta; [email protected]

*Subject:* Re: [Mifos-users] Loan Interest



Polly, Doug, and Samuel,


52 weeks != APR and Mifos calculates using APR.  IE, you have your number of
interest days set to 365 and 52 weeks is equal to 364 days so there is the
one day of interest you are losing.

Please refer to this earlier thread on how to recalculate your interest rate
to get the interest you are looking for = *http://is.gd/ejsoS
*
Ryan

On 8/17/10 19:52, "Polly" <[email protected]> wrote:

Doug, Samuel,

The first installation was calculating the interest OK but with the
consequent upgrades we noticed that we were loosing money but we are using
it the way it is. I will forward this to the mifos users list for
assistance.

Polly.

On 17 August 2010 14:18, Douglas Kurz <[email protected]> wrote:

Polly,
This is Doug. This is the first loan we have ever tried and we seem to have
something set to where Mifos “looses” one days interest. Here are the
account details for this loan. Does any of this look different from your
system?

  *Account details*
  Interest rules
 Interest Rate Type:  Flat
 Interest rate: 15.0% APR
 Interest deducted at disbursement : No

 Repayment rules
 Frequency of Installments: 1 Week(s)
 Principal due on last installment: No
 Grace Period Type:  Grace on all repayments
 No. of installments: 52 (Allowed Number of Installments: 2 - 104)
 Grace period for repayments: 3 Installments
 Source of fund:  Non Donor

Also, here are our “Organizational Settings” is there anything in here that
looks different from you and may cause this problem:


  *Organizational Settings *
  *Fiscal year
*Working days: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday
 Allow calendar definition for next year: 30 days before end of current year

 Start of Week: Monday
 Off days: Sunday
 Meeting in case of a holiday: same_day

 *Locale
*Country: GB
 Language: EN

 *Accounting rules
*Maximum Interest: 999.0
 Minimum Interest: 0.0
 Number of digits before decimal: 14
 Number of digits after decimal for interest: 1
 Number of digits before decimal for interest: 10
 Number of interest days: 365
 Currency Rounding Mode: HALF_UP
 Initial Rounding Mode: HALF_UP
 Final Rounding Mode: CEILING

 *Currencies
*Currency: KES
 Number of digits after decimal: 1
 Final Round Off Multiple: 0.5
 Initial Round Off Multiple: 0.5

 *Client rules
*Center hierarchy exists: No
 Groups allowed to apply for loans: Yes
 Client can exist outside group: Yes
 Name sequence: last_name, first_name, middle_name, second_last_name
 Age check enabled: No
 Minimum allowed age for new clients: 0
 Maximum allowed age for new clients: 0
 Additional family details required: No
 Maximum number of family members: 20

 *Process flow / optional state
*Client pending approval state enabled: Yes
 Group pending approval state enabled: Yes
 Loan disbursed to loan officer state enabled: Yes
 Loan pending approval state enabled: Yes
 Savings pending approval state enabled: Yes

 *Miscellaneous
*Session timeout: 30 minutes
 Number of days in advance the collection sheet should be generated: 1
 Back dated transactions allowed: Yes
 Group loan with individual monitoring (GLIM): No
 Loan schedule independent of meeting (LSIM): No



*From:* SAMUEL MBITHI [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]

*Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:44 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Cc:* paul mburu; Douglas Kurz; Esther lemeta
*Subject:* Loan Interest


*High Polly, Samuel from Mission of Hope International  MEP  is requesting
you to offer an assistance with our system MIFOS


We are on progress of moving from old system  to a new system  MIFOS and we
have a problem in calculating our  interest on loan. The system is loosing
interest for one day i.e a loan of sh 30000 rate of 15% period 1 year
(52weeks) the total amount is 34500 but mifos is calculating it and gives us
a total amount of 34498.
>From the above explanation we are loosing 0.04% in all our loans for  all
rates of (10% 6months 11.25% for 9months 7.5% 6months and 5%  3months)

secondly calculate a loan of 100,000/= using 15% one year period, our system
MIFOS is giving us a less of  sh 41

kindly help us on:
     how to get the correct formula on flat interest in  mifos please.

*


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*Ryan Whitney **
**Mifos Technical Program Manager
**[email protected]*
Mifos - Technology that Empowers Microfinance (www.mifos.org)
*Our mission is to enable the poor, especially the poorest, to create a
world without poverty.
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Best Regards
Polly Najori
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