Because when the kernel crashes, logging crashes along with it.  If your
kernel isn't working, none of your sub programs work.

Kind of like a blue screen of death.

On Mar 3, 2017 6:27 AM, "Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users" <
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> Clearly there was a kernel failure.  But the watchdog didn't timeout, as
> that would have taken several minutes and the whole outage was no more than
> 30 seconds. I'm guessing the thread that recognizes a kernel crash links
> directly to the same reboot code that's used by a watchdog timeout.
>
> Separately, I still don't understand why we saw none of the several dozen
> log entries that our standard configuration generates upon a watchdog timer
> reboot (or any reboot).
>
> Thanks,
> Brough
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> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Judd Dare <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This was a hard crash due to a kernel failure and the watchdog caught
>> it.  Power was probably fine, just a bug somewhere that caused the kernel
>> to crash.  I'd take this opportunity to think about upgrading to another
>> version which may have that crash fixed.
>>
>> Judd
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It was not a power outage and the OSPF issues are minor (coming from a
>>> separate problem).
>>>
>>> But your suggestion of a terminal window is a good one!
>>>
>>> There are two messages.  I suspect the first is true and the second one
>>> is anomaly that goes along with the lack of any startup log messages.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the first time I've seen a kernel failure out of 7 CCRS
>>> operating for 6 to 14 months.
>>> ​
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brough
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Scott Reed <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Open a terminal window.  If it was a power outage, under the banner it
>>>> will say something like reboot without proper shutdown.
>>>>
>>>> Also, the very beginning of the log after power up may have some help.
>>>>
>>>> The part you are showing looks like OSPF getting started.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/2/2017 2:11 PM, Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At 12:24 today, one of our core routers appears to have had a brief
>>>> outage. It's upstream of our monitoring server so initially everything
>>>> looked like a disaster, but upon further examination, the outage lasted
>>>> less than 30 seconds and the 11 VPN sessions at the monitoring server were
>>>> all back up in less than 37 seconds.  Looking at the monitoring server and
>>>> each of the devices upstream of the monitoring server, all had uptimes of
>>>> >143 days, except the gateway router, a CCR1036.
>>>>
>>>> Strangely, the uptime on the CCR1036 suggests it rebooted at 12:24
>>>> today, but there is nothing in its log.  How can we have a 30 second
>>>> service outage and have the router's uptime reset with no log entries?  On
>>>> a router reboot, we normally have dozens of log entries before the router
>>>> is up, has the correct time and is behaving normally.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a Winbox view of date, time, uptime and the log.  Any ideas?  Am
>>>> I missing something obvious?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ​
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Brough
>>>>
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