Ralph,

Depending on what your intended use really is, have a end user router that uses 
PPPOE and connects into your network is by far the easiest.   Matter of fact, 
when I was with Boingo many years ago, we used Mikrotik Hotspot for general 
users and then run PPPOE on the hotspot interface, that allowed PPPoE clients 
to still connect and log in and bypass the hotspot interface, which allowed us 
to service "private clients" or airport concession businesses POS systems.

If you don't want to use PPPoE, Mikrotik's DHCP Server will now radius 
authenticate and you can still control bandwidth and see who's on.   Take a 
look at the following documentation ---  
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/DHCP_Server

All of the radius attributes that are supported are listed.   You will need to 
set something like FreeRadius up or a supported billing system and Mac 
authenticate your clients.   The only issue doing this is that every time a 
client device changes, you will need to update the database, unless those 
devices are behind a CPE type router.

If I were setting up a new network today, that's the route I would go, using 
DHCP Radius Auth against a known CPE device you give out.

Brian

Brian Vargyas
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On 1/21/18, 5:46 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of ralph via 
Mikrotik-users" <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]> wrote:

    I have a lot of sites using MT Hotspot with an offsite RADIUS backend that 
handles billing and customer speed control, etc.  
    
    This is fine for when the customer has a browser equipped device. They just 
log in via the portal and away they go.  But now there are many new devices 
that don't use browsers,  things like smart thermostats, smart TVs, certain 
game consoles and who knows what else.  MT (and my backend) have MAC 
Authentication (where you set MAC as one of the login methods in the hotspot) 
for those sorts of devices. However that only works if the device initiates an 
HTTP connection. On HTTPS, no auto login  and on a lot of these other devices 
no auto login either.
    
    So I end up having to put these device's  MACs into an IP Binding table in 
the MT hotspot.    Works great.  But I lose all tracking of the user, I can't 
control their speed, and I don't even know they are on line.   But the worst 
part is that now I have to manually track whether or not their subscription is 
current. Sometimes I forget to and their devices get free service for months.
    
    But I think there must be a way I can do the following:
    
    1. Let their MAC just pass through without going through the hotspot.
    2. Limit the device's speed to that of their subscription
    3. And optionally, have the rule go away on a certain date (or after a 
certain period of time)
    
    I'd be ecstatic if I could just get #1 and #2.
    
    I don't know anything about "Manual Queues", only the ones the hotspot 
creates upon login.  
    
    Can someone help me out?
    
    Thanks,
    Ralph
    
    
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