do you some sort of presentation that can be used to visit 
municipalities in our county with the intention of showing the "need" 
for them.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
skype cajeptha



Butch Evans wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Carl A jeptha wrote:
>
>   
>> people have been killed for less, spill the beans, or be stoned by 
>> the crowd. :-D
>>     
>
> Hmmm...weighing the two options of spilling the beans or death by 
> stoning, I think I'll take the former, as the latter sounds a bit 
> painful.  ;-)
>
> Ok..here we go.  First, I will say that I have installed a system 
> such as I will describe MANY times.  I know that it works and works 
> well.  The effectiveness of this type of network depends on MANY 
> factors, which are unique to each of the networks I have deployed. 
> Having said that, let me describe the steps and, later, some 
> options.
>
> First, the "freebie" part:
>
> The idea is that there is an existing 802.11(a|b|g) network deployed 
> already in MOST populated areas in the US and Canada.  Since this is 
> the case, I began looking at ways to bring municipalities around to 
> a point where they NEED our existing networks.  There are many 
> reasons for this, but the most important was that if they need the 
> network, they will be more likely to try to help us protect it as 
> well as be more willing to allow us to use space such as water 
> towers and such.  Many cities already do this, but by providing 
> crucial services to them, they are more willing to make it 
> affordable as well as allow for "exclusivity" on the city's 
> property.
>
> At any rate, what I did was create a set of scripts that allowed me 
> to put Internet access in places like Fire Trucks, Police Cars and 
> other city owned vehicles.  Each network is different, so I can't 
> just give a "cut and paste" script...What I CAN do, however, is 
> provide the LOGIC and description of the necessary parts.
>
> For the WAN part of the network, you will be able to use ANY 
> access point (not just Mikrotik).  Well, any aps that you can 
> connect to with a MikroTik running as CPE.  This includes a MT 
> access point that is running in 900, 2.4, 5.x AND 4.9 (emergency 
> services).  Bear in mind that the higher frequencies are MUCH more 
> picky about LOS and the CPE side (the vehicle) is not going to have 
> much antenna. All we need here is the ability to connect with a MT 
> client device and access the network.  I've used DHCP, static IP 
> addressing AND pppoe...the connection method is not important.
>
> Additionally, we will need, at least for some services, a MikroTik 
> router at the "head" of the network.  The purpose of this MikroTik 
> is to provide a VPN server, so that we can provide the various 
> services (police department, fire dept, ambulance, etc) with a means 
> to contact the cars with a consistent IP address, regardless of the 
> location that device is currently using as a connection.  This 
> allows for us to (for instance) let the dispatcher see a video 
> stream from "car 1" without having any knowledge of where or how 
> that car is connected to the network.
>
> Now, for the CPE that will be installed in the vehicle.  There are 
> MANY ways to do this, depending on the set of services needed in the 
> car.  In some cars, we have a CPE with just a single radio that will 
> be the internet connection and path back to the VPN server.  What we 
> do in this router, is set up the following:
>
> 1. Using connect-list feature, we set up the APs that we are allowed 
> to connect to.  This can be all the APs on a single ISP or even 
> multiple ISPs...it doesn't really matter.
>
> 2. We need to know how to configure the CPE for EACH access point we 
> can connect to.  For example:
>       * SSID "sample1" needs pppoe with user/pass of "test/test"
>       * SSID "sample2" needs DHCP
>       * SSID "otherISP" needs static IP of x.x.x.x/24
>
> 3. We have to monitor the RX signal level on the current AP so that 
> we can force the CPE to find a better AP when the signal is no 
> longer usable.  This is necessary, since there are two "bad" things 
> happening.
>       1. The CPE is moving (either closer to or further from) the
>          AP most of the time.
>       2. 802.11a/b/g does NOT disconnect automatically until the
>          signal level is so low that it is completely unusable for
>          our purpose.
>
> SO, we have to constantly monitor the connection to FORCE the CPE to 
> disconnect, so that it will find the AP that is best for where we 
> are physically located NOW.
>
> 4. We have another script (or a portion of the above script) that 
> will detect our current AP and insure that the network parameters 
> (DHCP/PPPoE/etc.) is correct.  This is the "tricky" part.
>
> The above description is all that's needed for a CPE that is a 
> single radio config.  You can, also, add the ability for the car to 
> have it's own AP for devices such as a wireless SIP phone or PDA to 
> connect to.  Obviously, a SIP phone will drop a call if the time to 
> switch towers is too long.  It is because of this that I built a 
> script that allowed for 2 client radios.  This script does all the 
> stuff that the above description says, but it does it in a different 
> way.  What happens is this:
>
> 1. Radio 1 connects to the best AP and is configured as our 
> "current" connection (get's the correct IP information and a gateway 
> is added so that traffic uses this radio).
>
> 2. Radio 2 begins searching for the best AP and will be configured 
> with IP information ONLY if the current signal level on Radio 1 is 
> below a certain (definable) threshold.
>
> 3. If Radio 2 is now the "current" connection, then Radio 1 begins 
> the search for a new AP.  and the cycle is repeated ad infinitum.
>
> Basically, we "walk" the network with 2 CPE devices.  We can, also, 
> set the AP in the car so that it is not going to interfere with the 
> "current" radio's frequency, though this will cause problems with 
> calls if we aren't careful.  In order to detect "call status", I use 
> a script that watches packet rate on the interface.  If it is below 
> a certain number, I will assume that there is no call currently 
> connected, and it is safe to move the car mounted AP to a new 
> channel if it is interfering with the current connection.
>
> As you can see, it is doable, but it is VERY involved.  I don't want 
> to make this a "sales pitch", but I will say this much...
>
> 1. Each install is VERY HIGHLY CUSTOMIZED, and, therefore, has to be 
> built according to the needs of the specific network
>
> 2. Cost may seem high, but MUCH of this can be paid for with grants 
> (homeland security has MILLIONS of dollars to build these types of 
> systems out)
>
> The first one of these that I built was WAY underbid.  I only 
> charged about $3k for that one.  The most expensive was about $18k, 
> but involved almost 2 weeks onsite.  The average cost (my part) is 
> about $5k-7k.
>
>   
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