With channel 1 not working anymore, that would be my second guess - interference.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, ccrum <[email protected]> wrote: > I've seen this exact problem on sectors with heavy interference. Some of my > sectors are picking up as many as 100 other radios (other wisps, home > routers, etc.) spread over all channels. I can tell you that some radios > handle this better than others. Several of my older APs that were still > running Prism based cards really suffered from this. I changed to 8602 > Atheros cards and they handle it better, but I even see this problem on them > from time to time. I'd change the radio first. I doubt it is a cable or > antenna issue if you can get it to work on one channel. I'd bet its > interference. > > Cameron > > > Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> Got a crew going up the tower today. Going to start with the cable, then >> the antenna and if that doesn't work the radio. We'll see what happens. >> >> Chris Gotstein >> Sr Network Engineer >> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> 500 N Stephenson Ave >> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >> Phone: 906-774-4847 >> Fax: 906-774-0335 >> [email protected] >> >> Keith Barber wrote: >> >>> Remember not to rule out the lmr cable. I've had 2-3 go bad on me. The >>> 1-meters from TitanWireless. Connections would just not be there, bad >>> signals, or just no throughput. Replace that 1-meter cable, and BAM >>> everybody smokin' again. >>> >>> -Keith- >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Fri, 1/23/2009 5:47am >>> To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP >>> >>> Nope, now have clients failing to connect on channel 1 as well. >>> >>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>>> Does ch 1 still work just fine? >>>> >>>> On 1/22/09, Terri Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> An antenna failing is very unusual in my experience. More often then >>>>> not it is the radio and sometimes the POE failing to supply the power >>>>> it is supposed to. >>>>> >>>>> Terri Kelley >>>>> Network Engineer >>>>> 254-697-6710 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This email message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above, >>>>> and >>>>> may contain, together with any attachment(s), confidential information >>>>> that >>>>> is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that >>>>> you >>>>> have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, >>>>> forwarding, printing, copying or distribution of this message and any >>>>> attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well now i'm losing almost all my clients. Something is failing, >>>>>> not sure if it's the radio or antenna at this point. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What I like to do is 3 enclosures, 3 boards, etc. If anything goes >>>>>>> bad just carry "new ap kit" that is a pipe with antenna/enclosure >>>>>>> ready to go and pipe to pipe clamps. >>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What kind of antenna are you using? I was also thinking about >>>>>>>> moving to >>>>>>>> sectors and having 3 wireless cards in 1 box. Any worries about >>>>>>>> cross-talk doing that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you are wanting to save cost's you can get along well with a >>>>>>>>> 411ah. >>>>>>>>> 1-ethernet 1-wireless good cpu. I have 65 clients on one with no >>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>> RC-WiFi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh >>>>>>>>> Luthman >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:27 PM >>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 433ah for sure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PacWireless and xr2 would be my suggestion but I don't do >>>>>>>>> anything in 2.4. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, >>>>>>>>> poorly. >>>>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, probably best option. Suggestions on a good antenna and >>>>>>>>>> which RB >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> go with? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I were in your position I'd get a new antenna, lmr, radio and >>>>>>>>>>> motherboard. All new hardware at once. Figure out what's good >>>>>>>>>>> safely >>>>>>>>>>> on the ground. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is true. If i got to send someone up, it is worth moving >>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>> XR2 radio? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with that and I was thinkin that myself. However we >>>>>>>>>>>>> can all >>>>>>>>>>>>> agree we've seen far stranger things. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd that the antenna would only work well on 1 channel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd think >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> whole thing would just die out if the antenna was bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has just gotten that bad around here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it connects on ch 1 I doubt any water is in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connectors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antenna could be shot, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are your signal strengths? What is your omni? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. Have you checked for water in cables? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as i'm aware, we are the only WISP in the area. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tower sites are more than 15 miles away from this tower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be my next option, and probably moving to horizontal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> polarization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have heavy interference from somewhere else. Are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canopy's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the area? Do you have other transmitters in the area? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, when you go to G you are spending enough time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels where the interference is that you disappear to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients... G hops to all channels equally, whereas B >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's time in the set channel. You may need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectorize... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 or 2 would connect and then drop off. I just tried a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels and the same thing happens. Go back to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channel 1 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all connect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of the 30 connected!? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just going to do that. Also, when i moved over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to B/G, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CCQ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went from 80 down to 10. And when i tried changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients would not reconnect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can enable G, do. It should help if the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compression. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With an omni you can pick up oodles of interference, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late tonight? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4B, but i could change it to B/G if needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usage is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> light, no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 1-2mb going through the AP at one time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spike to 3mb. We are routed, VLAN'd at each tower >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This AP is using a 8db omni. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know about hidden nodes, but i guess I'll need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it more. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do i check for them? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4Ghz? Running 802.11b? 30 Customers.. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing. One of the biggest advantages of the MT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what customers are really pulling... if you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11b then the max you are going to see through >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4mb/s and if your customers are all allowed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mb/s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see frequent times when they are competing with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you seeing for hidden nodes? What's your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout? Are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they off a sector or an omni? So much that this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We put up a RB532 late last fall to replace a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TR6600. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed that on the 6600's that when you get more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, they start performing very poorly. So, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that i had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been hearing was to move to a mikrotik box. At >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> purchased >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a RB532 board and have a SR2 wireless card. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worked great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first month, and since then it's back to slowing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starting to get complaints about slow speeds, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. We >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients attaching to this one box, and they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mb dl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 384k up. I thought this box would easily >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections and data, but it doesn't seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running the latest firmware on the board and am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tweak this. Any suggestions? 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