Josh, What kind of distance can you get with a good line of site on 5.8 and a 19dbi panel? I have always done 2.4 but the noise is kicking my butt in so many locations and I have used 5.8 for all my backhauls. Been considering changing to 5.8 in a few locals but understand it is even more picky for a good LOS. I have some Hor 2.4 that I am able to cut through a woods with at 1.5 mile and still have a -79.
Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:03 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP Not 100% screwed but it is a pain in the ass problem. Upgrading cards and changing the polarity would be my first two steps. Note this is why I avoid 2.4 - most of my equipment is 5.8 (even the backhauls...hmm) and a little bit of 900. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: > I think this summer we'll be moving to sectors and horizontal polarization. > Just not something we can do now in the dead of winter. > > Chris Gotstein > Sr Network Engineer > UP Logon/Computer Connection UP > 500 N Stephenson Ave > Iron Mountain, MI 49801 > Phone: 906-774-4847 > Fax: 906-774-0335 > [email protected] > > Corey Freeman wrote: > >> fwiw, we made the move to horizontal polarization to cut down on seeing so >> much CPE. Seems to have been a great choice for us as it all but eliminated >> cpe interference issues for us at the affected site. >> >> -Corey >> >> Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> With channel 1 not working anymore, that would be my second guess - >>> interference. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>> --- Henry Spencer >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, ccrum <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I've seen this exact problem on sectors with heavy interference. Some of >>>> my >>>> sectors are picking up as many as 100 other radios (other wisps, home >>>> routers, etc.) spread over all channels. I can tell you that some radios >>>> handle this better than others. Several of my older APs that were still >>>> running Prism based cards really suffered from this. I changed to 8602 >>>> Atheros cards and they handle it better, but I even see this problem on >>>> them >>>> from time to time. I'd change the radio first. I doubt it is a cable or >>>> antenna issue if you can get it to work on one channel. I'd bet its >>>> interference. >>>> >>>> Cameron >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Got a crew going up the tower today. Going to start with the cable, >>>>> then >>>>> the antenna and if that doesn't work the radio. We'll see what >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Keith Barber wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Remember not to rule out the lmr cable. I've had 2-3 go bad on me. >>>>>> The >>>>>> 1-meters from TitanWireless. Connections would just not be there, bad >>>>>> signals, or just no throughput. Replace that 1-meter cable, and BAM >>>>>> everybody smokin' again. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Keith- >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Fri, 1/23/2009 5:47am >>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, now have clients failing to connect on channel 1 as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does ch 1 still work just fine? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Terri Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An antenna failing is very unusual in my experience. More often then >>>>>>>> not it is the radio and sometimes the POE failing to supply the >>>>>>>> power >>>>>>>> it is supposed to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Terri Kelley >>>>>>>> Network Engineer >>>>>>>> 254-697-6710 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This email message is intended only for the named recipient(s) >>>>>>>> above, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> may contain, together with any attachment(s), confidential >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, >>>>>>>> forwarding, printing, copying or distribution of this message and >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well now i'm losing almost all my clients. Something is failing, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not sure if it's the radio or antenna at this point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What I like to do is 3 enclosures, 3 boards, etc. If anything >>>>>>>>>> goes >>>>>>>>>> bad just carry "new ap kit" that is a pipe with antenna/enclosure >>>>>>>>>> ready to go and pipe to pipe clamps. >>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What kind of antenna are you using? I was also thinking about >>>>>>>>>>> moving to >>>>>>>>>>> sectors and having 3 wireless cards in 1 box. Any worries about >>>>>>>>>>> cross-talk doing that? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you are wanting to save cost's you can get along well with a >>>>>>>>>>>> 411ah. >>>>>>>>>>>> 1-ethernet 1-wireless good cpu. I have 65 clients on one with >>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>> RC-WiFi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh >>>>>>>>>>>> Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:27 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 433ah for sure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PacWireless and xr2 would be my suggestion but I don't do >>>>>>>>>>>> anything in 2.4. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, >>>>>>>>>>>> poorly. >>>>>>>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, probably best option. Suggestions on a good antenna and >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which RB >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> go with? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If I were in your position I'd get a new antenna, lmr, radio >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard. All new hardware at once. Figure out what's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> safely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the ground. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is true. If i got to send someone up, it is worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XR2 radio? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with that and I was thinkin that myself. However we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree we've seen far stranger things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd that the antenna would only work well on 1 channel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole thing would just die out if the antenna was bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has just gotten that bad around here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it connects on ch 1 I doubt any water is in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connectors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antenna could be shot, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are your signal strengths? What is your omni? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. Have you checked for water in cables? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as i'm aware, we are the only WISP in the area. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tower sites are more than 15 miles away from this tower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be my next option, and probably moving to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horizontal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> polarization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have heavy interference from somewhere else. Are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canopy's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the area? Do you have other transmitters in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, when you go to G you are spending enough >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels where the interference is that you disappear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients... G hops to all channels equally, whereas B >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's time in the set channel. You may need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectorize... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 or 2 would connect and then drop off. I just tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels and the same thing happens. Go back to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channel 1 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all connect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of the 30 connected!? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just going to do that. Also, when i moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to B/G, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCQ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> went from 80 down to 10. And when i tried changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients would not reconnect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can enable G, do. It should help if the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> compression. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With an omni you can pick up oodles of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interference, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late tonight? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4B, but i could change it to B/G if needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usage is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light, no >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 1-2mb going through the AP at one time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spike to 3mb. We are routed, VLAN'd at each tower >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This AP is using a 8db omni. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know about hidden nodes, but i guess I'll need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it more. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do i check for them? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4Ghz? Running 802.11b? 30 Customers.. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing. One of the biggest advantages of the MT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what customers are really pulling... if you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11b then the max you are going to see through >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4mb/s and if your customers are all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mb/s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see frequent times when they are competing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you seeing for hidden nodes? What's your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout? Are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they off a sector or an omni? So much that this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We put up a RB532 late last fall to replace a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TR6600. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed that on the 6600's that when you get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, they start performing very poorly. So, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that i had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been hearing was to move to a mikrotik box. At >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchased >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a RB532 board and have a SR2 wireless card. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worked great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first month, and since then it's back to slowing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> starting to get complaints about slow speeds, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. We >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients attaching to this one box, and they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mb dl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 384k up. I thought this box would easily >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections and data, but it doesn't seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running the latest firmware on the board and am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tweak this. Any suggestions? Maybe need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster box? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ditch MT and go with another AP vendor? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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