To put it even more succinctly, this functionality allows you to make your
own network utterly transparent to the end user.  This allows for dead
simple reselling with yourself completely out of the loop, assuming that
your backhauls are good.

A customer of ISP A gets an ISP A IP address, is subject to ISP A's routing,
QoS, and all that stuff, while ISP B's customers get ISP B IP addresses, ISP
B routing, QOS, and what not.  Bill based on ingress/egress at the
interconnect with each ISP.

This can be, for lack of a better term, 'faked' in various ways with
Mikrotik already, but then you lose the ability to do things easily like
tell a given ISP that you're seeing the connect attempt from the customer,
and here's the username/password, or whatever.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:mikrotik-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:59 PM
> To: Mikrotik discussions
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] RouterOS needs VPDN!
> 
> This is a bit different.
> Instead of using the realm to locally authenticate the user you
> forward the whole PPP session to the remote PPP server (LNS)
> associated with the realm.
> 
> To continue on Shayne's example, [email protected]'s traffic (PPP bits
> and all) would get tossed down a L2TP tunnel to 2.2.2.2.
> This means the PPP session for Bob would be established between BOB's
> CPE and 2.2.2.2.
> Your router would just be forwarding bits from Bob to the L2TP tunnel.
> This rocks because your wholesale customer (example.com) can use their
> own IP addresses for the customer.
> 
> I chipped in support in a different thread a while back:
> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26698
> This is really the one feature left that is preventing me from
> becoming a rabid Mikrotik evangelist. :-)
> 
> Also see Cisco's explanation of this:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk801/tk703/technologies_tech_note09186a00
> 80094586.shtml
> 
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Doesn't it already support realms via RADIUS?
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Shayne Lebrun" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:04 AM
> > To: "'Mikrotik discussions'" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Mikrotik] RouterOS needs VPDN!
> >
> >> What I'd love to see in RouterOS is VPDN.  Very handy for reselling
> >> access.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Customer initiates PPPoE session.  Local Access Concentrator picks up
> this
> >> PPPoE session, and examines the realm.  Based on said realm, the
> session
> >> is
> >> forwarded along to the appropriate 3rd party's LNS.  Let say,
> >> @butchevans.com goes to 1.1.1.1 and @example.com goes to 2.2.2.2.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We can fake this in various ways in RouterOS at the moment, but it
> would
> >> be
> >> awfully nice to have proper VPDN that can interop with Cisco and
> Juniper
> >> kit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Show some love in this forum thread:
> >>
> >> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1
> >> <http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18611> &t=18611
> >>
> >> and vote on the Wiki:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MikroTik_RouterOS/v4/Feature_Requests
> >>
> >> and help make some dreams come true.
> >>
> >>
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