Just to chime in, I run 5.26 exclusively until the 6.x series has had enough 
time to work out the bugs for a proper FOA.  Depending on your IP ranges, ipv6 
will consume 2x to 4x the resources that ipv4 does, rendering anything rb1100 
and below useless for my ipv6 rollout.  We are transitioning to non-software 
based ospf routers (asics) as the software based simply won't scale well enough 
for our needs.  How many routes are you predicting?

FWIW, we have always seen weird random issues on the mtiks resolved by 
resetting the OSPF module.  Neither Foundry or Cisco has reproduced the 
behavior, it's isolated to mtik.  This has gotten them banned from the core.  
Mtik's handling of OSPF is flaky at best, but many issues were related to layer 
2 situations as well.  So if you haven't started by examining your layer 2 and 
ensuring it is inline with best practices, that's where you start.  In our 
case, cisco and brocade is where our journey ended.

Mike Miller
Senior Network Administrator
Synergy Broadband
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P: 734-222-6060 x104
F: 801-640-8001

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   1. Re: OSPF on v6 (Grand Avenue Broadband)
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   3. Re: (no subject) (Wayne Hancock)
   4. Re: (no subject) (Scott Reed)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 10:54:31 -0700
From: Grand Avenue Broadband <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] OSPF on v6
To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
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Now you guys have me worried.  Our entire network is on 6.10.  Is there any 
particular reason none of you are using that one?

On May 8, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Scott Reed <[email protected]> wrote:

> Was everything showing Full as the State?
> Were there errors in the log?
>
> We have a mix of 5.26, 6.9 and 6.11 with no issues.
>
> On 5/8/2014 12:11 PM, Wayne Hancock wrote:
>> In my use case, I have ~ 130 routers connecting on a /24 Network/VLAN 
>> (Canopy solution).  Seems odd that I'd have no issues with the 6.9 code but 
>> do with the 6.11... Even odder is that it isn't just the 6.11's that have 
>> the issue, if I have ANY 6.11's on the segment joining OSPF I can get this 
>> behavior on other routers... Only reason  found that it was related to 6.11 
>> is I in frustration decided to move everything back to 6.9 to get all the 
>> routers on the same version. (Problem started after I started letting 6.11 
>> devices on the network).
>>
>> -=Wayne Hancock =-
>> SandRidge Energy, Inc.
>> 123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73102
>> 405-429-6195
>> [email protected]
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Paul
>> Kelley
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:43 AM
>> To: 'Mikrotik discussions'
>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
>>
>> I have several routers running 6.11 and OSPF and have seen no such issues.
>>
>> Jon Paul Kelley
>> CKS Wireless
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne
>> Hancock
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:23 AM
>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>> Subject: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
>>
>> Did anyone else encounter weird issues with 6.11 and OSPF? I had sites that 
>> were showing neighbor adjacency, but were receiving no routes...
>>
>> On 6.9 I don't have the issue.
>>
>> -=Wayne Hancock =-
>> SandRidge Energy, Inc.
>> 123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73102
>> 405-429-6195
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 13:13:09 -0500
From: Scott Lambert <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] OSPF on v6
To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 10:54:31AM -0700, Grand Avenue Broadband wrote:
> Now you guys have me worried.  Our entire network is on 6.10.  Is
> there any particular reason none of you are using that one?
>

If you are not having problems, don't worry about it.  There were a few bugs, 
mostly PPP related.  If your use scenario doesn't hit them, you shouldn't care.

--
Scott Lambert                    KC5MLE                       Unix SysAdmin
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 18:56:49 +0000
From: Wayne Hancock <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
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Yes, full state, nothing of note in the logs...

-=Wayne Hancock =-
SandRidge Energy, Inc.
123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
Oklahoma City, OK 73102
405-429-6195
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:31 AM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] (no subject)

Was everything showing Full as the State?
Were there errors in the log?

We have a mix of 5.26, 6.9 and 6.11 with no issues.

On 5/8/2014 12:11 PM, Wayne Hancock wrote:
> In my use case, I have ~ 130 routers connecting on a /24 Network/VLAN (Canopy 
> solution).  Seems odd that I'd have no issues with the 6.9 code but do with 
> the 6.11... Even odder is that it isn't just the 6.11's that have the issue, 
> if I have ANY 6.11's on the segment joining OSPF I can get this behavior on 
> other routers... Only reason  found that it was related to 6.11 is I in 
> frustration decided to move everything back to 6.9 to get all the routers on 
> the same version. (Problem started after I started letting 6.11 devices on 
> the network).
>
> -=Wayne Hancock =-
> SandRidge Energy, Inc.
> 123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
> Oklahoma City, OK 73102
> 405-429-6195
> [email protected]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Paul
> Kelley
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:43 AM
> To: 'Mikrotik discussions'
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
>
> I have several routers running 6.11 and OSPF and have seen no such issues.
>
> Jon Paul Kelley
> CKS Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne
> Hancock
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:23 AM
> To: Mikrotik discussions
> Subject: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
>
> Did anyone else encounter weird issues with 6.11 and OSPF? I had sites that 
> were showing neighbor adjacency, but were receiving no routes...
>
> On 6.9 I don't have the issue.
>
> -=Wayne Hancock =-
> SandRidge Energy, Inc.
> 123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
> Oklahoma City, OK 73102
> 405-429-6195
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Wireless Networking
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 16:28:11 -0400
From: Scott Reed <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Not sure what you have.
In all versions we have run OSPF on I have seen when, after making OSPF 
changes, a router get routes it only gets 10-20 and then sits there.
Normally I can get it to get the full table by doing the following in a 
terminal window rout ospf ins dis 0; en 0 The disable and enable commands are 
on the same line because when the disable happens all routes are lost and so I 
loose connectivity.  The router goes on to turn it back on and I usually stay 
connected and it recalculates routes fast enough to stay connected.
Occasionally, it is the adjacent router that needs to be "kicked."

On 5/8/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Hancock wrote:
> Yes, full state, nothing of note in the logs...
>
> -=Wayne Hancock =-
> SandRidge Energy, Inc.
> 123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
> Oklahoma City, OK 73102
> 405-429-6195
> [email protected]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Reed
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:31 AM
> To: Mikrotik discussions
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
>
> Was everything showing Full as the State?
> Were there errors in the log?
>
> We have a mix of 5.26, 6.9 and 6.11 with no issues.
>
> On 5/8/2014 12:11 PM, Wayne Hancock wrote:
>> In my use case, I have ~ 130 routers connecting on a /24 Network/VLAN 
>> (Canopy solution).  Seems odd that I'd have no issues with the 6.9 code but 
>> do with the 6.11... Even odder is that it isn't just the 6.11's that have 
>> the issue, if I have ANY 6.11's on the segment joining OSPF I can get this 
>> behavior on other routers... Only reason  found that it was related to 6.11 
>> is I in frustration decided to move everything back to 6.9 to get all the 
>> routers on the same version. (Problem started after I started letting 6.11 
>> devices on the network).
>>
>> -=Wayne Hancock =-
>> SandRidge Energy, Inc.
>> 123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73102
>> 405-429-6195
>> [email protected]
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Paul
>> Kelley
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:43 AM
>> To: 'Mikrotik discussions'
>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
>>
>> I have several routers running 6.11 and OSPF and have seen no such issues.
>>
>> Jon Paul Kelley
>> CKS Wireless
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne
>> Hancock
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:23 AM
>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>> Subject: [Mikrotik] (no subject)
>>
>> Did anyone else encounter weird issues with 6.11 and OSPF? I had sites that 
>> were showing neighbor adjacency, but were receiving no routes...
>>
>> On 6.9 I don't have the issue.
>>
>> -=Wayne Hancock =-
>> SandRidge Energy, Inc.
>> 123 Robert S. Kerr Ave
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73102
>> 405-429-6195
>> [email protected]
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>

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Wireless Networking
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www.nwwnet.net
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 19:09:17 -0400
From: Eric Tykwinski <[email protected]>
Subject: [Mikrotik] BCP tunnels
To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Lab question:

Not super important, but trying to figure something out.
I'm trying to route a C-class to my home lab.  So being dynamic at my house, I 
set up a tunnel using L2TP and then using PPTP.
After failing on LT2P, I'm following the instructions at: 
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:BCP_bridging_%28PPP_tunnel_bridging%29
It doesn't seem to get me anywhere, but the only basic change is that I'm using 
a loopback bridge for the server location.
Setup is basically:
Internet <-> Eth1 -> MT1 bridge <-> Tunnel <-> MT2 bridge -> Vlan public

I can't ping x.x.x.2 from bridge interface x.x.x.1 and vice versa, MACs are 
setup on both Bridges DE:AD:BE:EF:00:01, and DE:AD:BE:EF:00:02.
PPTP tunnel and L2TP both worked fine...

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300
F: 610-429-3222




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