Les Mikesell wrote: >> Because running pine over SSH is not a "gateway" as defined in RFC >> 5321, whereas running a Webmail server that accepts email using some >> kind of transport (HTTP or HTTPS) and then delivers it using SMTP *is* >> a gateway as defined in RFC 5321.
> Sorry, but a web interface isn't an email gateway. Transmitting an email via HTTP from a client computer qualifies as gatewaying by my reading of the RFC. > The application running email isn't where the web interface displays > it any more than it would be if you display thunderbird in a remote > X session. No, that's not correct at all. Using HTTP as a transport protocol for email is quite different from using the X protocol to draw pixels on a remote display. > But the RFC says nothing about remote displays and remote application > acccess, whether provided by ssh, X, or http(s). The RFC defines a gateway as: A "gateway" SMTP system (usually referred to just as a "gateway") receives mail from a client system in one transport environment and transmits it to a server system in another transport environment. This describes webmail exactly. You type your email into a form in the Web browser which transmits it over HTTP to the server. That's the server "receiving mail from a client system". [...] > I wouldn't object to showing the remote display's IP address in a header > so I'm not arguing against that, but it is somewhat imaginative to think > a web browser is the other half of an email gateway so the RFC > requirement would apply. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. I'd note that all other webmail providers and open-source Webmail programs disagree with Google. (Hotmail has to be different, of course; it uses X-Originating-IP: rather than a Received: header.) Regards, David. _______________________________________________ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list [email protected] http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
