Thanks for the love and peace Willy.  There was another Manhatten
Project in the 1960s - one that looked at which populations ended up
with psychiatric problems.  Migration turned out to have a major
effect (bad).  In the UK one is much more likely to be sectioned as an
ethnic minority than as an indigenous white.  This said, 7% of our
kids have serious problems and 25% some kind of problem in this area.
Even Sweden had a serious scandal in the 1980s regarding its asylums.
Across Europe, pregnant girls have been treated to branding as insane
and so on.  I'm not sure we have got any better - the UK has a
particular problem.

On 15 Jan, 07:20, "willy minnen" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Thanks, Archytas. There were terrible institutions ruled by nuns here in
> Antwerp. My mother who is 97 now was a victim in one. My wife who is only 45
> in another. Duffel is a Flemish village around a large river here. 1/3rd of
> the village is water. That village was ruled by nuns until some 20 years
> ago. They had a psychiatric clinic for women, schools, everything, pure
> terror. And there was a laundry like the one in the movie. The unwanted
> girls were considered psychiatric patients. There are four times more
> psychiatric patients in Flanders than in the Netherlands, with the double of
> population. I'll remind these nuns until the end of my days. All hospitals
> in Flanders were ruled by nuns. One was just afraid of getting ill, because
> we didn't trust them anyway.
> Love and peace. Willy.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: archytas
>   To: "Minds Eye"
>   Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:04 AM
>   Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: The Magdalena Sisters
>
>   Didn't like the movie Tman - but we had these institutions in the UK
>   too.
>
>   On 15 Jan, 06:50, tmanneke <[email protected]> wrote:
>   > The Magdalena Sisters
>   > Yesterday I saw the movie about the Magdalena Sisters together with my
>   > wife.
>   > She is going back to the clinic tomorrow.
>   > A kind of concentration camps only for women, ruled by nuns, where
>   > parents, government, almost everybody could put girls they would get
>   > rid of.
>   > Such institutions existed here in Flanders too. They were differently
>   > called, differently considered, but the aim was the same.
>   > The fierce terror of clericals on innocent and harmless people.
>   > Why catholicism was that aggressive in Flanders and Ireland?
>   > The border between these countries and their neighbours were only
>   > religious ones.
>   > The church here has always be on war.
>   > That is what we suffered from, as the movie says, till the beginning
>   > of the nineties.
>   > Love and peace to all.
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