I agree there as well with the referencing quantum physics as saying time and space are just leisures of perception and using that as a basis to conclude "therefore our bodies cannot truly be reality if they occupy this space", doesn't seem plausible. I would think that mental images and subconscious activity may fall into the category of illusion but I feel the body itself is a physical manifestation of consciousness, therefore our bodies are in that sense reality. At nearly 2 minutes he states that consciousness shapes our reality which dismisses the claim of illusion. Later it infers a brain washing of society through education, lack of holistic brain function leading to "what is known as suppression of the feminine", at which point I wonder what circles of though it that "known as" Although it all starts out with innuendo, I think that is a way of using suppositions to create the "Mystique" quality which in a way is very creative. I don't think the video was put together for the scientific community. It seems to start coming together with the idea that the body is merely a vessel that contains our spirit to gather experience for the divine mind but then basing evolution possibilities on that gets shaky. The innate knowledge portion doesn't take much to understand as it is easy to see that quality of life because it is so obvious. By this time in the video I would think that the first segments are forgotten and the rhythmic drone by now has the viewer in somewhat of a trance. I see that at this point there is at least one connection of dots, that being the two references to collective consciousness, in the first minute and shortly after 5 minutes. I'm totally lost on the Chakra stuff and so I can't comment on it. But I can see that there is this tendency to establish some direction and cohesiveness in the presentation. Enough for now!
Well fabulous Ms. Molly, I thought you might like to know that I've acquired a piece of property and I'm going to establish the first "Mollywood". I'll expect you to be there for the Grand Opening, for autographs and book signing. There will be Irish Coffee as part of the refreshments along with some Dublin Coddle, Corned Beef and Cabbage, Mutton Stew, Boiled Boxty and Potato Farls . Aside from various forms of entertainment there is going to be a Limerick Recital. On Jan 17, 9:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > No, no, not bloody marys - FABULOUS Marys - same recipe, better name. > (As Molly is a proper Irish nickname for Mary, I speak from > experience.) > > The large leaps in logic of the presentation did make me wonder at the > maturity level of the author. He started with the bit of the reality > of the body being "illusion" and I do not agree with that at all, > being more of the mind that all aspects of being require integration. > In fact, I think that feeling with the body is really a key component > in the awakened imagination, so never really subscribed to the > "illusion" thing. > > One thing I liked very much that the author presented briefly was the > idea of "innate." Our innate wisdom is the premise that modern > chiropractic was founded on. D D Palmer based his whole philosophy of > Chiropractic on this notion of innate, and it is taught in the Palmer > schools to this day. Our body's innate wisdom is also the basic tenet > of Kinesiology. The author did a pretty good job of placing this idea > in the right place of his presentation. > > On Jan 17, 9:07 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For those who didn't do their homework.......... > > > Say 3 Hail Mary's followed by a Act of Contrition > > > OR > > > Drink 4 Bloody Mary's followed by a Act of Perdition. > > > Slip {;-] > > > On Jan 17, 12:15 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > MEA CULPA!!! MEA CULPA!!! MEA CULPA!!! > > > :-) > > > > On Jan 16, 8:15 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > No need for apology everyone!! > > > > > It's all good! > > > > > On Jan 16, 10:13 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > As Molly said "A very bold move, Slip, to introduce this video to a > > > > > group based on rational discussion". > > > > > But then again "PS Thanks Slip, for this reference". > > > > > It's just fodder for discussion. > > > > > Thanks for your contribution! > > > > > > On Jan 16, 9:34 pm, "Chris Jenkins" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry Slip. Didn't mean to be dismissive, but when the intro sets > > > > > > the pace > > > > > > for great leaps of fallacious logic, I pretty much know what to > > > > > > expect of > > > > > > what's coming next. And it's clear from my postings here that I > > > > > > fall into a > > > > > > very materialist, rationalist mind set. I don't discount the > > > > > > wonders of > > > > > > imagination...I simply don't base my science on it. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I knew the background string repetition would be annoying to say > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > least, I found it hard to bear. Overall I'm happy with the > > > > > > > responses > > > > > > > but was hoping some could get over the A.D.D. and see what other > > > > > > > content offerings were being presented. I had a feeling that > > > > > > > much of > > > > > > > it was loose purporting without substantiation, as some of you had > > > > > > > pointed out. Molly seemed on target with "The author's final > > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > to quell the argument that everyone must come to this leap in > > > > > > > consciousness for the world to move into a collective higher > > > > > > > resonance > > > > > > > is not clear." In fact it seemed that the author really didn't > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > what to do and it all get's frayed at the end. I do understand > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > Archy's coming from with "As researchers, we are supposed to > > > > > > > listen to > > > > > > > everything, yet this is not realistic - bull gets in the way of > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > clarity and direction we can glimpse, yet our bull-detectors can > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > get in the way". Exactly, the bull detection sets a barricade in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > road of further exploration. One minute of a 20 minute video is > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > 5% and as I said I do understand to a degree. The first > > > > > > > impression > > > > > > > for some most likely is, if you've seen one you've seen them all, > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > Chris point out with "I've been inundated with enough "The Secret" > > > > > > > type pseudo physicists lately that I'm utterly put off on the > > > > > > > whole > > > > > > > thing". The point most importantly, though, is that this was not > > > > > > > about you but more so that I needed clarification on this video > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > I thought I could get from my esteemed friends, of whom I highly > > > > > > > regard as a valuable resource beyond my own personal capacity, so > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > was really for me. Not to say that I am less than satisfied but > > > > > > > waiting to be satiated as of yet. > > > > > > > The reference to quantum physics and Rutherford were vague at > > > > > > > best and > > > > > > > tugged at my cerebral gray matter for understanding or lack of, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > leaves me in a quandary with Chris's first paragraph as well. I'm > > > > > > > hoping that Pat, Gruff, Ian, KC, and everyone else will pop their > > > > > > > heads into the window for a look see. I guess I'm a bit taken > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > curiosity as to how different personalities view this video, and I > > > > > > > guess you all have seen Zeitgeist?, another intriguing video worth > > > > > > > your opinion. > > > > > > > I agree with Fran that the film contains some interesting, nice > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > and his more in depth analysis reflects my first impression, as it > > > > > > > lacked continuity as a whole and I felt it was a bit sporadic. > > > > > > > Regardless of the fallacies within the video, I believe that if > > > > > > > it can > > > > > > > get people to drop the fear and pick up the love we all have > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > to gain from it. Remember the majority of people in the world > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > don't know anything about quantum physics and scientificThe > > > > > > > general > > > > > > > idea of the video and what it is trying to present doesn't seem > > > > > > > negative and I would think that is the attraction for many people > > > > > > > unaware of content validity. > > > > > > > > OK so all in all I'll give a 50/50 split on responses. However > > > > > > > let's > > > > > > > not forget Molly's most inciting comment............. > > > > > > > > "OK MindsEye, let 'er rip" > > > > > > > > Well?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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