Great Point Chris!! It's something like the "No Child Left Behind" in the US which in fact has merely become a turnstile educational system, BUT if you have graduates you get the $. It's pass the morons or fall out of the grant pool.
On Jan 18, 7:27 pm, "Chris Jenkins" <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually Craig, if you check my Facebook stream, you'll see a whole slew of > articles in 2008 that basically destroyed the theory of AGW entirely. Huge > advancements were achieved in our understanding of solar and terran climate > cycles, and it was well established that human carbon production has minimal > impact on weather cycles, period. The new articles you are seeing simply > ignore the new data in favor of a well established grant pool. > Ask Neil...it's publish or die, and they're certainly not going to give up a > six figure endowment. ;) > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Kierkecraig <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Has anyone on here ever seen a news article, or scientific article, or > > anything else where it said "global warming may not be as bad as > > originally predicted"? It seems that every couple weeks or at least > > once a month, I see an article that tells me that global warming is > > worse than they originally predicted. If everyone of those articles > > was true, the cumulative effect would have us literally on fire at > > this point. Either that, or they were really really modest in their > > original estimates. > > > On Jan 18, 2:33 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The Environmental Protection Agency, U.S. Forest Service, Department > > > of Energy, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and > > > National Science Foundation contributed to a recent report indicating > > > that small climate change moves may well have devastating impacts. > > > To view the full report, Synthesis and Assessment Product 4.2: > > > Thresholds of Climate Change in Ecosystems, visithttp:// > > climatescience.gov. > > > > The main finding of this report is that once a threshold is passed the > > > system may go beyond recovery. It seems possible to argue against > > > global warming, but it really is not. Yet I still feel the real case > > > has not be made properly, in a really understandable manner. > > > > On 18 Jan, 21:15, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We have given up our coal powered Aga in the kitchen Orn. Used to > > > > see that as rather "green", but we could leave three patio heaters > > > > pointed at the sun on 365/24/7 and cause less carbon loading! We > > > > still have a PM talking up a doubling in the global economy as a good > > > > thing. It is almost impossible to be enthusiastic as a UKdian these > > > > days. Time for a whole new economy - maybe "god" dropped a big hint > > > > in collapsing the banks? I really do think something like this kind > > > > of catastrophe is coming - in any case more local, greener economies > > > > would do us all good, except a few super rich. > > > > On 18 Jan, 19:31, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > guardian.co.uk > > > > > > President 'has four years to save Earth' > > > > > > US must take the lead to avert eco-disaster > > > > > Robin McKie in New York The Observer, Sunday 18 January 2009 > > > > > > Barack Obama has only four years to save the world. That is the stark > > > > > assessment of Nasa scientist and leading climate expert Jim Hansen > > > > > who > > > > > last week warned only urgent action by the new president could halt > > > > > the devastating climate change that now threatens Earth. Crucially, > > > > > that action will have to be taken within Obama's first > > > > > administration, > > > > > he added. > > > > > > Soaring carbon emissions are already causing ice-cap melting and > > > > > threaten to trigger global flooding, widespread species loss and > > > > > major > > > > > disruptions of weather patterns in the near future. "We cannot afford > > > > > to put off change any longer," said Hansen. "We have to get on a new > > > > > path within this new administration. We have only four years left for > > > > > Obama to set an example to the rest of the world. America must take > > > > > the lead." > > > > > > Hansen said current carbon levels in the atmosphere were already too > > > > > high to prevent runaway greenhouse warming. Yet the levels are still > > > > > rising despite all the efforts of politicians and scientists. > > > > > > Only the US now had the political muscle to lead the world and halt > > > > > the rise, Hansen said. Having refused to recognise that global > > > > > warming > > > > > posed any risk at all over the past eight years, the US now had to > > > > > take a lead as the world's greatest carbon emitter and the planet's > > > > > largest economy. Cap-and-trade schemes, in which emission permits are > > > > > bought and sold, have failed, he said, and must now be replaced by a > > > > > carbon tax that will imposed on all producers of fossil fuels. At the > > > > > same time, there must be a moratorium on new power plants that burn > > > > > coal - the world's worst carbon emitter. > > > > > > Hansen - head of the Goddard Institute of Space Studies and winner of > > > > > the WWF's top conservation award - first warned Earth was in danger > > > > > from climate change in 1988 and has been the victim of several > > > > > unsuccessful attempts by the White House administration of George > > > > > Bush > > > > > to silence his views. > > > > > > Hansen's institute monitors temperature fluctuations at thousands of > > > > > sites round the world, data that has led him to conclude that most > > > > > estimates of sea level rises triggered by rising atmospheric > > > > > temperatures are too low and too conservative. For example, the > > > > > Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says a rise of between 20cm > > > > > and 60cm can be expected by the end of the century. > > > > > > However, Hansen said feedbacks in the climate system are already > > > > > accelerating ice melt and are threatening to lead to the collapse of > > > > > ice sheets. Sea-level rises will therefore be far greater - a claim > > > > > backed last week by a group of British, Danish and Finnish scientists > > > > > who said studies of past variations in climate indicate that a far > > > > > more likely figure for sea-level rise will be about 1.4 metres, > > > > > enough > > > > > to cause devastating flooding of many of the world's major cities and > > > > > of low-lying areas of Holland, Bangladesh and other nations. > > > > > > As a result of his fears about sea-level rise, Hansen said he had > > > > > pressed both Britain's Royal Society and the US National Academy of > > > > > Sciences to carry out an urgent investigation of the state of the > > > > > planet's ice-caps. However, nothing had come of his proposals. 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