Dear Francis, as you know I am Flemish and worked a part of my life in Germany too. If you read other replies I wrote on this subject, I mentioned too that the atmosphere in the Jewish community is quite different in Amsterdam, Paris or even Brussels than here in Antwerp. When I say 'They all support the Israelian attacks' I mean: all those I know here. There is no difference of opinion among them here, as I was told there is a lot of difference in the Jewish communities in most of the towns in the States. ----- Original Message ----- From: frantheman To: "Minds Eye" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Gaza
On 22 Jan., 19:29, "willy minnen" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, gruff, even here it is dangerous to talk about them the same way as > about others. > "them" ... This is a basic part of the problem and one of the roots of anti-semitism, even if we are mostly unconscious of it. There is no "them". There are orthodox Jews, secular Jews, atheistic Jews, Jews who support everything Israel does, Jews who don't. There is the state of Israel, which is a jewish state, whose doings and being-done-tos are significant to those who live there and Jews all over the world ... but which is, nevertheless, a particular problem. I am a non-German, living in Germany. Even here, where the horror of the holocaust is consciously, chosenly, rightly present, as a responsibility to the past, present and future (incidentally, making the relationship between Germans and Jews endlessly uncomfortable and the theme of Israel and its actions continually complex), I still experience this "them" oozing out of the unconscious Christian/ European rooted tradition. "They" are different. And the different is strange, somehow untrustworthy. We have to move beyond "them". Francis --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
