"... On Jan 23, 4:38 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: ...
"

> I suspect, Gruff, that we atheists think we have been duped by God -
> and then on later reflection realise this might better be described as
> the "lying myths of origin of our societies and organisations".  I
> even suspect we do not really disbelieve in God, but believe the
> concept is generally damaging and that other pragmatics work better.

I don't think I've been duped by god.  To me the concept of a god is
simply absurd and while I've been duped a time or two in my life by
absurd concepts, god is not one of them ... at least since I was about
twelve years old and maybe earlier than that.

However, I do allow that the concept of and belief in a god has been
the mainstay of a large portion of humankind throughout our history,
but that does not say anything about the validity of such concepts and
beliefs.  It is difficult to ignore a concept that has been the most
widely spread belief in human history, nor is it difficult to ignore
the wrongs that have been committed in the name of one god or
another.

But to be brief, there is nothing in science that indicates the
existence of a god or gods, nor does the widespread belief and worship
of such gods prove their existence.  I simply find it incredibly dense
that we continue to practice such beliefs and worship when it is
clearly up to us to solve our own messes.  At least this attitude
beats the hell out of just accepting all the crap and making it from
one day to the next till we finally die on the promise of a heavenly
reward for our belief.  I'm sorry but bah, humbug!


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