I'd still hold most of us hold we were duped by God, possibly traumatised by that point in childhood where the realisation of what Gruff says dawns. Trauma here is a bit like PTSD in which it is probably impossible to bottom the grim source of abuse. My keyboard seems to have developed a mind of its own - words and symbols I don't type are appearing and the wrong ones delete ... back after virus check.
On 23 Jan, 22:30, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Well put gruff! Also I believe that those beliefs lend themselves to > much frustration for the believers when the reality appears in the > form of nothing happening as a result of praying to imagination. > > On Jan 23, 11:29 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "... On Jan 23, 4:38 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: ... > > " > > > > I suspect, Gruff, that we atheists think we have been duped by God - > > > and then on later reflection realise this might better be described as > > > the "lying myths of origin of our societies and organisations". I > > > even suspect we do not really disbelieve in God, but believe the > > > concept is generally damaging and that other pragmatics work better. > > > I don't think I've been duped by god. To me the concept of a god is > > simply absurd and while I've been duped a time or two in my life by > > absurd concepts, god is not one of them ... at least since I was about > > twelve years old and maybe earlier than that. > > > However, I do allow that the concept of and belief in a god has been > > the mainstay of a large portion of humankind throughout our history, > > but that does not say anything about the validity of such concepts and > > beliefs. It is difficult to ignore a concept that has been the most > > widely spread belief in human history, nor is it difficult to ignore > > the wrongs that have been committed in the name of one god or > > another. > > > But to be brief, there is nothing in science that indicates the > > existence of a god or gods, nor does the widespread belief and worship > > of such gods prove their existence. I simply find it incredibly dense > > that we continue to practice such beliefs and worship when it is > > clearly up to us to solve our own messes. At least this attitude > > beats the hell out of just accepting all the crap and making it from > > one day to the next till we finally die on the promise of a heavenly > > reward for our belief. I'm sorry but bah, humbug! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
