"I'd still hold most of us hold we were duped by God,..." - Neil
Add one more to the other side of that poll's equation Neil. As well as I can contemplate it, the issue hangs upon what sort of projected identity one places upon 'God'. Of course, IF such an expectation includes things like a parential figure that is 'there' to take care of us...and not just in our best interests, but exactly the way we want to be taken care of...well, yes, there may come a point of disillusionment. On Jan 24, 12:35 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd still hold most of us hold we were duped by God, possibly > traumatised by that point in childhood where the realisation of what > Gruff says dawns. Trauma here is a bit like PTSD in which it is > probably impossible to bottom the grim source of abuse. My keyboard > seems to have developed a mind of its own - words and symbols I don't > type are appearing and the wrong ones delete ... back after virus > check. > > On 23 Jan, 22:30, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well put gruff! Also I believe that those beliefs lend themselves to > > much frustration for the believers when the reality appears in the > > form of nothing happening as a result of praying to imagination. > > > On Jan 23, 11:29 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "... On Jan 23, 4:38 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: ... > > > " > > > > > I suspect, Gruff, that we atheists think we have been duped by God - > > > > and then on later reflection realise this might better be described as > > > > the "lying myths of origin of our societies and organisations". I > > > > even suspect we do not really disbelieve in God, but believe the > > > > concept is generally damaging and that other pragmatics work better. > > > > I don't think I've been duped by god. To me the concept of a god is > > > simply absurd and while I've been duped a time or two in my life by > > > absurd concepts, god is not one of them ... at least since I was about > > > twelve years old and maybe earlier than that. > > > > However, I do allow that the concept of and belief in a god has been > > > the mainstay of a large portion of humankind throughout our history, > > > but that does not say anything about the validity of such concepts and > > > beliefs. It is difficult to ignore a concept that has been the most > > > widely spread belief in human history, nor is it difficult to ignore > > > the wrongs that have been committed in the name of one god or > > > another. > > > > But to be brief, there is nothing in science that indicates the > > > existence of a god or gods, nor does the widespread belief and worship > > > of such gods prove their existence. I simply find it incredibly dense > > > that we continue to practice such beliefs and worship when it is > > > clearly up to us to solve our own messes. At least this attitude > > > beats the hell out of just accepting all the crap and making it from > > > one day to the next till we finally die on the promise of a heavenly > > > reward for our belief. I'm sorry but bah, humbug!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
