In the end I suspect we could go on forever Gruff - perhaps to discover we operate on similar definitions! The issue to me is that when people discuss stuff like "capitalism" they are often stuck in chronic, soaked-up positions they don't understand themselves. None of us would want to grope about doing " _ " signs on every term like a bunch of undergraduate sociologists - yet quick content analysis shows many people just churn over old crud that really makes sense of nothing. One interpretation of your distribution and exchange stuff is that of parasitic behaviour and recent bwanking looks very much like massively extended middle-man work failing to add an value at all and eventually crashing the system. What I'm after is some grounded notion of what we actually get in transactions. I have an argument that capitalism actually prevents wealth creation - it certainly did in the old Soviet areas and I think I see this every day here - but I don't see this as necessarily an anti-capitalist argument, just as an attempt to do "tropical fish realism" in terms of work and reward. Around the world, there are shits who rip everyone else off - it may well be that we don't focus enough on stopping this and that it is this that allows work to create wealth. Economics is a phlogiston theory - it hasn't established basics on which to operate.
On 25 Jan, 22:24, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > "... On Jan 25, 1:37 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: ..." > > > I'm not convinced Gruff - but that's not the point. Even this slight > > unpacking gets us nearer to an understanding of what we might think > > good, against what restrictions and so on. Much argument is not even > > half-baked. Maybe entry to Fist of Smoke will cost two bags of coal > > in these currency deflation-aware times! > > Can you be more explicit on what you think is missing or still needs > to be explored? > > /e --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
