Nice move Orn, re-elevating the MInds Eye discourse to it's intended level. It's seems that as of late some of the threads have subsisted on mediocre tidings. However, "As the builders say, the larger stones do not lie well without the lesser", Plato. Fran's post presents four questions, How do we achieve more consciousness of the primacy of moral values in society/markets/ public life? How do we educate for real morality in society? What do we really mean by morality? and What systems of morality can we propose for our complex, splintered, internetworked, interdependent, open/closed contemporary societies? The foundation of this thread is developing nicely with a earnest attempt at establishing a mutual understanding of connotation and direction. While ethics and morality in specific instance can intertwine, I generally would view them separately. A corporation may engage business ethics without a scant consideration of morality, while another corporation may invoke both moral and ethical policy if the nature of it's existence affects the morality of society. Halliburton is not McDonalds. How do we achieve more consciousness of the primacy of moral values in society/markets/public life? I'm inclined to think the governing body holds the highest level of responsibility in creating that consciousness, though initial examination of contemporary government does not indicate that. For example, it would seem that moral values are not as much a precedent as warnings of the danger of smoking, in the government agenda. Perhaps this is due to the increasing presence of immorality in governmental conduct which of course sets a precedent for market enterprise and a standard tone by which society gauges itself upon. In addition, setting legal standards greatly influences the morality issue as participation in illegal activity becomes immoral behavior while reversing the legal standard renders the activity moral. This sets the stage for the questions, what do we really mean by morality? and what is "real" morality?
On Jan 29, 2:04 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > In a different thread, fran suggested an exploration of morality in > the context of economics and society. Rather than rephrase him, here > are his words: > > “…Most importantly, for me at least, many contributions (including > your > own appeal to charity) seem to point to some kind of primacy of the > "ethical" in the organisation of human societies, be it within a > "capitalist" or a "socialist" framework. This point came home to me > after reading the thought-provoking article by Howard A. Doughty (and > doesn't he live up to his name! :-)) in the link provided by Don. Of > course, this insight raises many more questions: how do we achieve > more consciousness of the primacy of moral values in society/markets/ > public life, how do we educate for real morality in society, and, > most > fundamtentally, what do we really mean by morality and what systems > of > morality can we propose for our complex, splintered, internetworked, > interdependent, open/closed contemporary societies? > What a wriggling can of worms! Back to Plato, Aristotle and all the > others ... ;-)” – fran > > I agreed and wish to explore the area…what we mean by morality, how to > educate for it etc. My responding post: > > “Fran, I find that you have pointed to the heart of the matter… > ethics. > As far as I see it, if different people have different ethics, it is > probable they will espouse differing economic and/or social systems > based upon their personal point of view. This seems so obvious. > Many here have studied the subject, formally and informally. And, of > course, each person has an opinion. For me, some sort of empathetical > or at least sympathetic analysis of how differing ethoses function > would be appreciated. And, yes, even in this simple request, my > personal ethos/morality shines through. > I have a few ideas on how to progress, however I’ll wait and see if > those better versed in the topic can guide us towards a more fruitful > discussion. “ – orn > > So, since the other topic continues to appear to include > contradictions to this notion, I’m starting a new one to address it > for those who wish to explore rather than reject. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
