Yes, knowledge is gnosis.
On Apr 24, 8:11 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
> thinking is wonderful, but seems to relate to a lack of knowledge. if
> one knows something they dont have to think about it other than to
> revel in the essence of such. i believe it is important to
> differentiate between thinking and idle contemplation or meditation.
> when it comes to spiritual enjoyment, i prefer to bask in previous
> experiences while also putting out the welcome mat for anything else
> that wants to come my way. without desire, spiritual growth will
> likely not result.
>
> On Apr 24, 10:51 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > "e, I'm glad that you've been able to resolve yourself spiritually.
> > It
> > doesn't mean that you've found an answer, you simply don't seek an
> > answer due to the fact that you feel fulfilled with your current
> > being. Noone said that's a bad thing." - R
>
> > For me, resolution is at the very least an answer if not the
> > answer...perhaps not for the unsatiable ruminations of the dochotic
> > mind thinking, and, perhaps it is there too....
>
> > On Apr 24, 4:48 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > e, I'm glad that you've been able to resolve yourself spiritually. It
> > > doesn't mean that you've found an answer, you simply don't seek an
> > > answer due to the fact that you feel fulfilled with your current
> > > being. Noone said that's a bad thing.
>
> > > On Apr 24, 6:02 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > if one has not experienced much in the spiritual realm they will not
> > > > determine that it has anything to do with 'finding the ultimate
> > > > outcome' and they will consequently keep searching, whether it be in
> > > > religion, yoga or a new pet. i found what i was looking for inside of
> > > > myself and i think everyone can...of course, i could be wrong.
> > > > personally, i have no faith since faith is only required if there is a
> > > > lack of knowledge/experience. if one knows something, there is no
> > > > requirement for hope, belief or faith.
>
> > > > On Apr 24, 12:27 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > Spiritual joy, spiritual bliss, spiritual disarray, spiritual
> > > > > disfunction, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual. All of these terms are
> > > > > insignificant to finding the ultimate outcome. We don't have the
> > > > > answer. We probably will never have it, maybe in the afterlife. A
> > > > > person should do what makes them comfortable, comfort should not be
> > > > > defined as simply conforming. It should be defined as feeling within
> > > > > your heart that you are doing the right thing. There are many
> > > > > religions whose members fall into that comfort category. Their mind
> > > > > is set to the idea that through their beliefs they are walking the
> > > > > righteous path. We can all sit here an analyze each other's
> > > > > religions, but when it comes down to it, you have people in every
> > > > > group who are completely satisfied with their faith and feel they
> > > > > don't need anything else. It's humbling. That's a good thing. But
> > > > > because you may have found your happiness in your faith, don't be
> > > > > biased towards others for finding happiness in theirs.
>
> > > > > I have yet to discern what I think is appropriate for my sanity. But
> > > > > I am going to do it with freewill and conscious thought.
>
> > > > > On Apr 23, 10:33 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > I agree, Rosey. I see religion as an answer to our desire to
> > > > > > belong.
> > > > > > It doesn't work for me but I have seen it work for many good people.
> > > > > > It helps give their life meaning and allows them to share thoughts
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > purpose with like minded individuals. Being alone is dangerous. So
> > > > > > is belonging to the wrong group, so it's good to be able to shop
> > > > > > around for the right church!
>
> > > > > > dj
>
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > So far, from what I understand, some of your are saying that
> > > > > > > religion
> > > > > > > was devised as a group lure for the sole purpose of monetary
> > > > > > > gains?
>
> > > > > > > Now it makes sense, Moses split the sea so that the Jews could
> > > > > > > cross
> > > > > > > over and sell logo'ed T-shirts advertising the new monotheistic
> > > > > > > revelation. To those that believe me, I am kidding.
>
> > > > > > > In times of despair, religion is an answer. Something to look
> > > > > > > forward
> > > > > > > to.
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 22, 4:38 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> Growth, Rosey.
>
> > > > > > >> Welcome to the group.
>
> > > > > > >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Rosey <[email protected]>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
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> > > > > > >> > One more question, what causes one to question religion after
> > > > > > >> > having
> > > > > > >> > been so faithful to it? I'd really like some input. Thank
> > > > > > >> > you.
>
> > > > > > >> > On Apr 19, 12:42 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> I decided to start a new post as I originally intended it to
> > > > > > >> >> be a
> > > > > > >> >> response to the Purpose of Life post but felt it took another
> > > > > > >> >> direction.
>
> > > > > > >> >> First off, tip of the hat to everyone in here. I discovered
> > > > > > >> >> this
> > > > > > >> >> group by chance. Second, purpose to life? Ah, the frailties
> > > > > > >> >> of the
> > > > > > >> >> mind, I have been walking backwards as I've grown weak in
> > > > > > >> >> faith. I am
> > > > > > >> >> muslim, I don't think anyone here is immature enough to
> > > > > > >> >> negatively
> > > > > > >> >> comment on such a label, but I do have one thing to say:
> > > > > > >> >> When I was
> > > > > > >> >> more faithful to my religion and consistent with prayers I
> > > > > > >> >> felt a
> > > > > > >> >> sense of completion and calmness. I could even say that I at
> > > > > > >> >> one
> > > > > > >> >> point I felt that I reached a temporary self actualization.
> > > > > > >> >> It's not
> > > > > > >> >> the religion, but more or less the idea of maintaining
> > > > > > >> >> spirituality
> > > > > > >> >> that keeps one fulfilled. Through my recent skepticisms and
> > > > > > >> >> analyzations of religion as a whole I have been more
> > > > > > >> >> distraught than
> > > > > > >> >> I've ever been. Is it an oddysey? Why does one who has
> > > > > > >> >> steered far
> > > > > > >> >> from ideological beliefs that a supreme entity exists feel
> > > > > > >> >> lost and
> > > > > > >> >> agonizingly stressed? Wouldn't one be better off just
> > > > > > >> >> accepting and
> > > > > > >> >> following religion knowing that they are abiding by its rules
> > > > > > >> >> accordingly? Isn't that comfort?
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> > > > > > >> >> Sincerely,
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