One of the things I find most comforting in a scenario of increasing
surveyance and moves toward the completely transparent citizen is the
ever reliable fact of burocratic incompetence. Now if all these
authorities and agencies, national and international, ever really got
their shit together, then things could become very frightening.
Luckily they don't.

Francis

On 25 Apr., 17:49, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1984 is more of a reality than people realize, look at how quick scans these
> messages to place adverts, Sigh,,, and all email is scanned by the weasel
> crew under the disguise of homeland security.
> crypt programs in pictures all kinds of nasty stuff, the trick is to stay
> out of the radar..  lol  oops blew it again.
>
> But private people are restricted terrible..  oh well
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ya mon!  This is as real as heartbeats.  Everywhere you go, everything
> > you do is most likely recorded by some hidden camera.  Big Brother is
> > no longer just on the telephone!!  If you have ATT you can rest
> > assured that your "world is delivered".  To whom it is delivered to is
> > another story.
>
> > On Apr 23, 3:46 am, wu wei <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I am trying to get an idea of how common covert video surveillance, as
> > > a form of social control, is in Britain and would be grateful if any
> > > one out there who feels they have been victims of this could contact
> > > me.
>
> > > As far as I can tell this is now common place in hostels, prisons,
> > > mental hospitals and day centres, military establishments, and even
> > > private residences.
>
> > > Has anyone ever given you the impression that know things about you
> > > that they can only have learned by surreptitious surveillance, either
> > > video or just audio.
>
> > > This is an example of the sort of thing I mean
>
> > > Landlord spied on students
>
> > > The Irish Times reports that 10 students were awarded a total of
> > > €115,000 against their landladies who had installed electronic
> > > surveillance equipment to spy on them:
> > > Two Dublin landladies have been ordered to pay damages totalling more
> > > than €115,000 to 10 students who were tenants in their house after the
> > > Circuit Court found they had kept the students under secret electronic
> > > surveillance...
>
> > > The students became concerned in late 2004 that their conversations
> > > and activities were being monitored when the McKennas referred to
> > > details the students had discussed in private in the house. When they
> > > raised the issue with the McKennas, the students were evicted....
>
> > > Judge Gerard Griffin yesterday found that the evidence in the case
> > > left him "in no doubt whatsoever that the defendants had kept these
> > > plaintiffs under electronic surveillance".
>
> > > The judge said he could not say whether it was audio or video
> > > surveillance or both, but he was concerned that yellow wires found in
> > > the house were of the international standard used for video recording.
> > > This isn't the first instance of this in Ireland - in 2003 a Galway
> > > landlord was found to have installed miniature cameras in the ceilings
> > > of his female tenants' bedrooms and bathrooms.
>
> > > Of course in this country the police are reluctant to prosecute in
> > > such cases.
>
> --
> (
>  )
> I_D Allan
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