and practically signature Orn to illustrate with authority.
On Apr 26, 3:15 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's practically signature Neal to deconstruct without engaging.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM, ornamentalmind
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Neil, as is the case quite often, your post appears to be from a place
> > of disillusionment. Not that I wish a Pollyannaish point of view, but
> > with as much insight as you have, I have great hopes for future offers
> > presenting more practice in wiping the excrement from those not so
> > rose colored glasses.
>
> > The throw-away lines you like to close with, while containing a tad of
> > a pedagogical Bill Porter (O. Henry), are so lightly presented as to
> > become more ethereal than instructive.
>
> > On Apr 26, 1:28 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> We have two toilets, but also water rates. What is given with one
> >> hand is taken away with the other. Poverty easily becomes the Monty
> >> Python joke, until one sees real people living in a 'shoe-box' in a
> >> central reservation in Sao Paulo. In serious vein, we are
> >> overpopulating and producing spurious notions of meritocracy and
> >> democracy as merely superior forms of human resource management.
> >> One might see it this way: We are merely vessels for the survival of
> >> our genetic material. Thus one dominates the world with CIA-assisted
> >> marketing of banal but standardised software, steals eggs from one's
> >> partner, transplants one's DNA into such eggs and speeds the result
> >> off into the vastness, ensuring the survival of one's DNA. There is
> >> now no need for the human world at all. Victory is assured as soon as
> >> one gets a gullible politico to push a red button. Quite what the
> >> purpose of the triumph of one's DNA is in such circumstances might get
> >> more debate than it does.
>
> >> On 26 Apr, 05:30, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > Dang! I left out the toilet, my home has two full baths, I'm living
> >> > like royalty!!
>
> >> > I'm going to borrow that Ghandi quote for the collective mentality
> >> > thread, thanks!
>
> >> > On Apr 25, 11:14 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > A poster on the wall at work:
>
> >> > > If your home has something other than a dirt floor you are in the top
> >> > > half of the world’s population.
>
> >> > > If your home has a roof, a door, windows and more than one room, you
> >> > > are in the top 20%.
>
> >> > > If you have refrigeration, you are in the top 5%.
>
> >> > > If you have a car, a microwave, a video, a computer and this toilet
> >> > > has a cubicle door, then you are in the top 1%.
>
> >> > > “We must be the change we want to see in the world.” – Mahatma Gandhi
>
> >> > > On Apr 25, 5:58 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > In further retrospect I have to say that there were many times I
> >> > > > realized the poverty in which my youth had developed but now I
> >> > > > realize
> >> > > > when witnessing the abject poverty of third world countries that I am
> >> > > > living the life of luxury just by the mere fact that I can walk over
> >> > > > to a sink and get water, take hot showers, have a refrigerator and a
> >> > > > microwave oven. We can take life for granted which is why the
> >> > > > wealthy
> >> > > > and privileged keep hording. It is basically the concept of relative
> >> > > > deprivation.
>
> >> > > > On Apr 25, 7:16 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > Maybe 'read' was a typo for 'ride' Slip. I get confused easily
> >> > > > > these
> >> > > > > days - good job you are about to fix my intentionality. Boys' Town
> >> > > > > was obviously a privileged place - our first car was a borrowed
> >> > > > > Vandenplas Princess with bald tires, followed by a Morris Oxford my
> >> > > > > brother fixed. England was always a poor place with memories of
> >> > > > > walking, waiting for buses that came sometimes, though we often
> >> > > > > spent
> >> > > > > our fare money on a shared bag of chips, eating them whilst
> >> > > > > clinging
> >> > > > > to the rear door rail of the bus sparking our clogs. Credit was
> >> > > > > something for the few who bed and breakfasted or shorted shares,
> >> > > > > travelling in chauffeur-driven cars -plus ca change ...
>
> >> > > > > On 26 Apr, 00:37, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Something along that line...and I see Gruff right at home on
> >> > > > > > that seat. ;)
>
> >> > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > NIce! My old man had one of those and sold it off when I was
> >> > > > > > > too
> >> > > > > > > young to realize the value of it.
>
> >> > > > > > > You made the off the wall connection though, Chris, it must be
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > Floridian Hooch eh?
>
> >> > > > > > > On Apr 25, 3:33 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> Like so?
>
> >> > > > > > >>http://www.american-v.co.uk/custom_bikes/001_indian/01c_indian_12.jpg
>
> >> > > > > > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Slip Disc
> >> > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > >> > Gruff's auto? Is there some kind of car trouble?
>
> >> > > > > > >> > Really Arch! New thread without a "Link"?
>
> >> > > > > > >> > Imagine what some Indian might be thinking!
>
> >> > > > > > >> > On Apr 24, 11:01 pm, archytas <[email protected]>
> >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >> An easy read Gruff - in the sense it went down well.
> >> > > > > > >> >> Found myself
> >> > > > > > >> >> wondering whether the themes repeat often through later
> >> > > > > > >> >> years and
> >> > > > > > >> >> wanting to know more.
> >> > > > > > >> >> Neil- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
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