New York is an illusion. A concrete jungle. A hustler's dream. All
Americans are minutes away from perdition and ruinl. Obama will
destroy America.

On May 6, 3:47�am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes Slip, those who can afford to live on LI would have a different
> perception of NYC than those who, say, have to live on Houston St. and
> have to wade over the needles to get in their door.
> When I lived on the upper west side, I too loved NYC. When I visited
> and used one of the Johnson families top floors on the upper east side
> overlooking Gracy Manor, all was good. When I visit inlaws in Great
> Neck, all is well too. However, when I had to live in a flat w/o hot
> water when it was snowing and schlep to Tai Chi Class and beg for
> food, things were not so great.
>
> On May 5, 8:45�pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > But we do have tender hearts
> > underneath don't we? <<Rosey
>
> > A medal? Not at all, but perhaps a plaque to go along with the tartar.
> > lol
>
> > Exclusivity.............I did not say that you "lacked" but only that
> > you were not exclusive, meaning that there are many others who share
> > your experience. �You were the one who brought up Brooklyn as if it
> > were a first experience. �I've seen much death and horrendous activity
> > prior to my 10th birthday so I can only imagine what you have seen.
>
> > I find that people, in general, perceive NY in a twisted view, most
> > never have even visited, let alone live there, but still offer some
> > jaundiced perception. �Compared to many other cities that I have
> > visited and in which I have lived, NY is a place that is more loving
> > than most can possibly comprehend. �Surely every city has its less
> > than desirable citizens. �It really comes down to the company you
> > keep!
> > Long Island still has its charm, retained by those who have the
> > money. �I left in the late 70's but usually visit every year during
> > the summer and occasionally in winter, not my favorite time of the
> > year but there is something about the snow covered pines that calls to
> > the heart, as long as you don't have to scrap it off your windshield
> > and drive in it. �I also have a love/hate relationship with NY and
> > have fears that someday the encroachment by city dwellers will one day
> > render the east end as a useless wasteland, as they have done with the
> > inner cities. �Talk about natural love, is there something to examine
> > concerning natural hate? �Is there a natural hate?
>
> > I've reached the end of my daily endurance and must sign off, manana
> > amiga!
>
> > On May 5, 9:33�pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Perhaps I should give you a medal for having one up on me. �Bowing
> > > gracefully to the master of whereabouts in NY. �You did say that I
> > > lack in exlusivity, oh worthy one. �You're lucky, you got to
> > > experience more piss infested, graffitti smitten, agonizingly dreadful
> > > parking hunts, deathdefying train rides, homeless flashers, gang
> > > member wannabe's, sidewalks wreaking eau' de la garbage, drunks at
> > > every corner New York City. �Did I miss anything? �Oh yes, the most
> > > obnoxiously rude people in the country. �But we do have tender hearts
> > > underneath don't we?
>
> > > However, I am honored that you find my posts interesting. �Possible
> > > encouragement for more participation from my end. �But I must say that
> > > I find all of your posts intriguing, provoking, and overall
> > > entertaining.
>
> > > I no longer live in NY, we ran the neighborhood as kids. �I have a
> > > love/hate relationship with NY. �I don't think I can ever live there
> > > again, but I do love to visit. �I make sure that we bother my mother
> > > at least once a year. �You can't get away from Gino's Italian Ices and
> > > the ever so greasy, best pizza in the US. �As far as the grafitti is
> > > concerned, NY'ers being the smart and savvy bunch that they are, use
> > > graffitti as a good memory tactic, you know just in case they forget
> > > their name or Nom de Plume. �It comes in handy being on every wall,
> > > bus and train. �Nothing like Rosey emphasized in bubble letters all
> > > over the place. �That's passion inspired art, for thy self, created
> > > and reveled by LOVE. �Had to keep the thread on topic.
>
> > > Fuggeaboudit.
>
> > > On May 5, 8:14�pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Which end of the barrel? lol �That's funny! � I see you also have a
> > > > humorous side!
>
> > > > You are sharp Rosey, but I have one up on you, that being that I spent
> > > > the first 10 years of my life in various parts of Brooklyn, and 10
> > > > years after in various locations in Queens Borough, H.S and College in
> > > > NYC, on to Long Island, still having a home on the east end. �I have
> > > > hundreds of friends and family in all areas and so have up to the
> > > > minute knowledge. �Perhaps you are living in one of my old pads (now
> > > > called cribs) lol. � I live in the Southwest because I don't have to
> > > > shovel heat. �You are brash and daring but far from exclusive, still I
> > > > love you, handywoman. �Your posts are provocative and stimulating with
> > > > the ball always landing in the court of Minds Eye. �This is good, as
> > > > it provides stimulus for the dead heads to finally open their minds
> > > > and address new issues, which of course you will continue to provide.
>
> > > > Peace, Love and Joy!
>
> > > > PS: So when are you going to do something about all the graffiti in
> > > > NY? I was very upset about the desecration on my last visit.
>
> > > > On May 5, 5:56�pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > You do Slip??? �Which end of the barrel?
>
> > > > > Tink, that hardly qualifies as art. �Try again.
>
> > > > > On May 5, 6:41�pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I hear cooing!
>
> > > > > > On May 5, 5:28�pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Is that like when a young man about town comes up with a killer 
> > > > > > > line
> > > > > > > to bring in a lady he's after?
> > > > > > > Pick your play any day :-)
>
> > > > > > > I like 'higher power', rather than something above us, the best 
> > > > > > > 'of'
> > > > > > > us.
>
> > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > On May 5, 5:54�pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Sometimes a revelation can happen when focused on a deep intent 
> > > > > > > > love
> > > > > > > > for someone. �That's inspiration, passion and wholehearted 
> > > > > > > > loving.
> > > > > > > > Now I'm picking on you. �:P
>
> > > > > > > > Of course the ability comes from a higher authority or so I 
> > > > > > > > believe.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 5, 2:55�pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > My dear young lady, what explains any revelation?
> > > > > > > > > Although God usually gets the credit, I'd say it's the 
> > > > > > > > > collective
> > > > > > > > > intelligence.
>
> > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:37�pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > What about when the "explosion of art" is provoked simply 
> > > > > > > > > > due to
> > > > > > > > > > thinking about someone, what explains that revelation.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 7:00�pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I would think the 'exploding in the arts' would be better 
> > > > > > > > > > > classified
> > > > > > > > > > > as insight, inspiration or revelation rather than Love.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 6:28�pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It explodes in the arts. Have done the whole trip- 
> > > > > > > > > > > > painting,
> > > > > > > > > > > > music, needlearts, poetry, gardening, cooking, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > diplomas. It still
> > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't cure a lost heart. I am now a hermitess living 
> > > > > > > > > > > > in a grand
> > > > > > > > > > > > house. My children are scattered and I was a good 
> > > > > > > > > > > > mother to them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe that is Love.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 5:04 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is beauty and pain defined. But in order to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > experience the pain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you must see its beauty. Which often happens 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpectedly. I wish I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wasn't one of those people that think with their 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > heart. What is the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > value of brilliance when the actions of your heart 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > blind you from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > using it? When I think of love, it's a deep, deep, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > longing for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > passion. Perhaps a flight without a plane. Or a swim 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > without water.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe even a delicacy tasted without swallowing. It's 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there but your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wary from it, worried about losing it, careful but 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not capable of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > determining whether you keep it or not, as love does 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > change. It gives
> > > > > > > > > > > > > one the ability to things they would never expect.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For example: I was able to play a tune on the piano, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > yet I don't play
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the piano. No, not expertly, I would post a link to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it but would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worried about getting critiqued by experts. I am no 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > expert and don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > play the piano, never have, we bought a keyboard 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > about two months ago,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > yet I managed a whole heart felt tune, I closed my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes and let my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fingers work their own magic. Do you think love gives 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > abilities?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 5:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am one of you- though disappointed and resigned. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I look back over my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > life as a grief of love. Take my heart but spare me 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my money. The last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time I heard "jaded" was from my highschool 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sweetheart who I dated for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a year after he divorced from a 30 year marriage. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was still a jerk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and died soon after I left him. Stuff happens.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm...I don't know, from what I hear, age is no 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barrier to love nor lust. ;)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to have you aboard. Strong opening salvo, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though! No soft spot at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all for us romantics?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, rigsy03 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for Monday's laugh! One is allowed. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two would be lethal.// I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wasn't sure this thought would get through but 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along in this group. I am a grandmother so 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat protected from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > foolish fancy even in the lusty month of May. I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lust after William
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safire. :-) Anyway, thanks for the welcome.//
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:35 am, Chris Jenkins 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Ah, the voice of the jaded.
>
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