:-) Hey, it's been decades since I've done this proto-Marxist,
liberal, liberation-theology infuenced, biblical exegesis kind of
stuff - I suppose there just some things that atomatically come back
to you ...!

On 16 Mai, 14:14, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 16 Mai, 12:44, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jesus displayed righteous
>
> > indignation when "barbarians" were using a "holy temple" as a place to
> > ply their trades. Lets think about this for a moment. Does it really
> > matter where one makes their gold from selling frankincense and
> > myrrh?
>
> > First of all, if "god" created heaven and earth, then all places on
> > earth are holy. Secondly, Jesus didn't design or build the temple,
> > wasn't a member of it, and really had no business telling the
> > merchants what to do there. NO place is holier than another, except in
> > perception, which of course motives a large percentage of homo-
> > sapians,
>
> On a point of fact, e, your exegesis of this event, is based on a
> factually false impression of the backround of and the actual issues
> involved in the cleansing of the temple, the earliest description of
> which can be found in Mark 11:15-19 (the story is also told in Mt
> 21:12-17, Lk 19:45-48, Jn 2:14-16). The general consensus is that,
> given the presence of congruent narratives in all the first sources,
> the story has a pretty firm grounding in the earliest traditions and
> has a high likelihood of factual origins.
>
> The basic point is that the Temple system was a massive parasitic rip-
> off machine. The High Priests nominated the Temple area as sacrally
> holy ground, which would prohibit the exercise of commerce within its
> presincts. Given that Jews saw themselves as divinely obliged to make
> pilgrimage to the Temple and sacrifice there, this was an
> inconvenience to those who wished to purchase sacrificial animals (the
> weren't always killed - doves were released) on the spot. The priests
> upped the ante however; sacrificial animals had to be certified for
> purity. So you either had to buy a certificate of purity on the spot,
> or buy a ritually certified as pure, also on the spot. But commerce
> was forbidden on the Mount. No problem, you just had to establish a
> ritually pure temple currency - with these coins you could then trade
> in the Temple area. So you had to have ritual money-changers.
> Certified as ritually pure, of course. And who did all the
> certification? Right, the priests.
>
> This is the kind of scheme worthy of comparison with Newman and
> Redford in "the Sting." With the difference that it was completely
> legal, not subject to any outside interest and completely in your
> face. And this was the system which got Jesus pissed. This is
> certainly the point emphasised in the synoptic stories. It was a
> strike against exploitative corruption and also against - rather than
> in favour of, as you claim - the separation of the sacral from the
> secular world. One of Jesus' central teachings was the overcoming of
> the sacral-secular duality - everything is sacred; so there's no
> reason to prohibit the use of ordinary money on the Temple Mount.
>
> The Johannine version (written 70 years after the events they
> described and a result of intensive meditation on, discussive and
> reworking of the tradition [under strong influence of other
> philosophical and religious traditions]) goes on with deeper symbolism
> with the opening of deeper themes through allusions to Jesus' body as
> Temple,  a prophesy of the passion, etc. But, fundamentally the
> Johannine tradition concurs with the synoptic trope of the overcoming
> of the cesura between sacral and secular, developing this further in
> the concept of Word (Logos) made flesh.
>
> Francis
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