I also know my father could have taken me somewhere or nowhere. He was a successful lawyer and angel producer in Hollywood. My life would have been very different. Actually, I did pretty well on my own. Tinker. I think Berryman nailed it-"irreconcilable loss".
On May 18, 3:32�pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Rigsy, > > I didn't realize that your comment was an insight for yourself. > If you are suffering depression, I think you must be on the way out of > it. > I'd imagine loosing a parent as a kid could leave a wound that could > be influential to depression latter in Life. > Keep on digging it out till it's gone. If you ever want to dump > something, Tinker's landfill is no charge :-) > > peace & Love > > On May 18, 3:21�pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I agree. There can be a sadness or grief that is a battle to overcome. > > I'd say it started with the death of my father when I was nearly nine. > > That's a long time ago but it has leeched forward.//Today wasn't bad- > > I answered the phone, participated in two face-to-face conversations, > > played the piano for over an hour. Hey! That's progress! :-) > > > On May 18, 1:50 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I believe anger turned in can cause depression, but there are many > > > more contributing factors in many cases. > > > > peace & Love > > > > On May 18, 9:49 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > O-my gosh! Depression is anger turned inward, imho. > > > > > On May 17, 2:08 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I think you could write something like 'The Art of Constructive > > > > > Anger'. > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On May 17, 2:00 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Anger can display itself in sarcasm or opinionated intrusions- a > > > > > > borderline punch. A hat trick that's going to get a reaction- > > > > > > sometimes long overdue. There are "forbidden subjects" in social > > > > > > settings- quite personal and primal- like touching a raw > > > > > > nerve/wound. > > > > > > Anger is an animal instinct- it protects territory, the young, > > > > > > survival and is ready to kill(brute force or words) or risk shunning > > > > > > and a punished existence. > > > > > > > On May 17, 12:46 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > im not suggesting that we deny or avoid anger, just that we nip > > > > > > > it in > > > > > > > the bud by paying immediate and focused attention to why we are > > > > > > > feeling it and what we can do to resolve the issue before it > > > > > > > starts > > > > > > > eating it up...slander doesnt bother me that much. if im okay > > > > > > > with who > > > > > > > i am, what someone else says about me has no great impact > > > > > > > > On May 16, 4:51 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You've done stirred up the devil in me (devils advocate) :-) > > > > > > > > > 1.Anger is positive if caused by a negative action. In that > > > > > > > > case the > > > > > > > > reasoning is correct. > > > > > > > > Resolving anger appropriately can be very rewarding. > > > > > > > > > 2.We would prefer to 'not' be angered, but will not be passive > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > negative that should be corrected. If anger is what it takes to > > > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > about action it is good. > > > > > > > > Correct understanding of a negative can cause anger. > > > > > > > > Anger management is not denial of the cause. > > > > > > > > > 3.Crimes of abuse include slander. It is justifiable to be > > > > > > > > angry with > > > > > > > > somebody for slander. That doesn't mean you have to own the > > > > > > > > crap. > > > > > > > > > 4.Anger creeps as 'who' and 'why', the way of dealing with it > > > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > > need for consideration. > > > > > > > > > 5.Correct anger management is emotionally stable, denial is not. > > > > > > > > > 6.Jesus was angry and took what he felt to be the appropriate > > > > > > > > action. > > > > > > > > > 7.So what happened to the "righteous indignation"? > > > > > > > > > 8.In a perfect world there would be no anger. > > > > > > > > "Love thy neighbor as thy self". I am angered by the greed and > > > > > > > > selfishness that causes my fellow man to suffer. This is good > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > righteous anger. > > > > > > > > > 9.If one refuses to acknowledge anger they will probably die > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > cancer. > > > > > > > > > 10.Coming to terms is often best accomplished with action. > > > > > > > > > 11.Sounds like anger management. You need one more question. > > > > > > > > What is > > > > > > > > the appropriate action? > > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > On May 16, 6:44 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The following thoughts are my opinions only and not stated as > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > (although they may seem to be ;-^) > > > > > > > > > >1. A Negatively Generated Emotional Response (ANGER) > > > > > > > > > Ah what the hell, we all get angry...right? The answer to that > > > > > > > > > question is usually...Yes. One should also ask the > > > > > > > > > question...Why? > > > > > > > > > Anger is a response mechanism that seems natural enough, > > > > > > > > > until one > > > > > > > > > tries to analyze it. When one asks the question "What is the > > > > > > > > > reason > > > > > > > > > for my anger?", and then actually takes some time to make > > > > > > > > > sense of it, > > > > > > > > > the result is usually that the reasoning is misguided. One > > > > > > > > > will also > > > > > > > > > soon realize that, not only is anger unenjoyable, it is also > > > > > > > > > not a > > > > > > > > > productive way to find resolution to the perceived problem. > > > > > > > > > >2. What Is Anger? > > > > > > > > > Anger is definately an emotion, and for most can be described > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > negative. Although some people actually seem to enjoy anger, > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > would prefer to live without it in their lives. Anger, to me, > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > sympton of a lack of understanding, acceptance and control. > > > > > > > > > Some will > > > > > > > > > say that they would not want to live their lives without > > > > > > > > > feeling their > > > > > > > > > natural emotions and that emotions shouldn't be controlled. I > > > > > > > > > see. So > > > > > > > > > I guess that anger management courses, marriage counsellors > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > psychiatrists are a waste of time and actually detrimental to > > > > > > > > > living a > > > > > > > > > natural life? > > > > > > > > > >3. Why Get Angry? > > > > > > > > > Although there may be some events that justify anger, very > > > > > > > > > few of them > > > > > > > > > are based on sound reasoning. If we exclude crimes of abuse > > > > > > > > > from our > > > > > > > > > reasons for anger, we would soon determine that we get angry > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > we put the opinions of others over our opinions of ourselves. > > > > > > > > > If we > > > > > > > > > can look in the mirror and feel good about ourselves, why let > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > words or actions of another disturb this feeling? > > > > > > > > > >4. The first thing I say to myself when I feel anger creeping > > > > > > > > >in is "Who > > > > > > > > > got the better of you, and why?". This is so ingrained into > > > > > > > > > my psyche > > > > > > > > > now that these questions are raised automatically. > > > > > > > > > >5. In my opinion, life IS emotions. Its not what you do, its > > > > > > > > >who you are. > > > > > > > > > Therefore, attaining and emotionally stable existance is THE > > > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > > goal in life. One cannot accomplish this without monitoring, > > > > > > > > > analyzing > > > > > > > > > and adjusting the way one reacts to a wide range of events > > > > > > > > > that will > > > > > > > > > transpire during ones lifetime. > > > > > > > > > >6. Righteous Indignation > > > > > > > > > Righteous indignation is a form of anger that seems to be > > > > > > > > > justified > > > > > > > > > since it involves a higher being. Jesus displayed righteous > > > > > > > > > indignation when "barbarians" were using a "holy temple" as a > > > > > > > > > place to > > > > > > > > > ply their trades. Lets think about this for a moment. Does it > > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > matter where one makes their gold from selling frankincense > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > myrrh? > > > > > > > > > >7. First of all, if "god" created heaven and earth, then all > > > > > > > > >places on > > > > > > > > > earth are holy. Secondly, Jesus didn't design or build the > > > > > > > > > temple, > > > > > > > > > wasn't a member of it, and really had no business telling the > > > > > > > > > merchants what to do there. NO place is holier than another, > > > > > > > > > except in > > > > > > > > > perception, which of course motives a large percentage of > > > > > > > > > homo- > > > > > > > > > sapians, who put their trust in something that they know very > > > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > about other than what they have been told. In other words, > > > > > > > > > righteous > > > > > > > > > indignation is anger with an ego problem, and definately not > > > > > > > > > justified > > > > > > > > > by those who claim to be represententive of the highest order. > > > > > > > > > >8. Can I Be Anger Free? > > > > > > > > > Well...maybe not completely. But mostly from my experience. > > > > > > > > > If a > > > > > > > > > person learns to like, if not love, themselves, what or who > > > > > > > > > has the > > > > > > > > > capacity to create anger? If someone is angry at you, insults > > > > > > > > > you, or > > > > > > > > > in other ways attempts to disturb you, instead of getting > > > > > > > > > angry, you > > > > > > > > > can actually have compassion for them, since they are > > > > > > > > > obviously > > > > > > > > > suffering from a feeling of inferiority, saturated with their > > > > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > > misguided rage, or just being a jerk, all of which are their > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > and shouldn't be your problem. You may even take some time to > > > > > > > > > find out > > > > > > > > > the source of their anger, and possibly help them resolve > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > issues. > > > > > > > > > >9. Nip Anger in the Bud > > > > > > > > > If one has the desire to live free of anger, and takes > > > > > > > > > strides to > > > > > > > > > overcome their natural tendency to be negatively affected by > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > actions of others, they will soon discover that its a hard > > > > > > > > > mountain to > > > > > > > > > climb. Although it may seem impossible to address anger in > > > > > > > > > the heat of > > > > > > > > > the moment, as soon as the first tsunami has subsided at bit, > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > should immediately start the re-building process. > > > > > > > > > >10. Storing Negative Memories > > > > > > > > > Before one can remove a negative incident from their > > > > > > > > > immediate psyche > > > > > > > > > and store it as a back burner memory for future referenece, > > > > > > > > > one must > > > > > > > > > fully analyze the event and come to terms with it. 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