It was solved during the Middle Ages! :-) There were serfs.
On May 19, 8:42 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> *** chuckles ***, yep, we need more three mile islands, more
> Chernobyls...this will surely help humanity! BO used to be bought and
> paid for by the nuke industry...you may get your wish!
> Oh, and, perhaps you would like to give a clear differentiation
> between a 'responsible citizen' and a 'freeloader'? If it were that
> simple, it would have been all solved long ago.
>
> On May 19, 6:37 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "...It is not faith but logic..." - SD
> > Well Slip, there is a view that looks at the past and says because so
> > and so has been this way and still is, it is 'logical' to imagine it
> > being that way in the future. Dealing with our historical ego is one
> > way we know stuff. And, yes, there are many who know how futile such
> > activity would be.
> > On the other hand, in no way does the past portend the future in any
> > sure way. However, IF that is the criteria to use, shall we look at
> > the Cuban missile crisis? Perhaps the fanatical assuredness of a
> > religious fundamentalist...pick your example. What about the omnipresent
> > 'War to end all wars.'? I could go on, but I'm sure that as much as
> > you meant what you typed as you typed, you are not fully committed to
> > such a view.
> > And, the name of this topic is what?...:-D [hint:Inklings...]
> > No logic other than intuition and guesswork here! Oh, yes, one can do
> > an analysis, one can do comparisons as I've done and one can look to
> > the past for authority. Let's just shake hands and continue to type,
> > OK Slip? ��
>
> > On May 19, 4:05 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > It is not faith but logic. We have the means to do many things but
> > > they are not getting done. We have the means to destroy all the
> > > planet and then some but we are still here, negotiating, establishing
> > > common ground, recognizing the ridiculousness of nuclear warfare.
> > > Never mind the picture of the bearded hobo with the sign and picture
> > > two people standing next to each other, each with a hand grenade
> > > saying "If you don't comply I will blow you up" Then picture the way
> > > it is now, people with nukes saying the same thing. What will it be
> > > 200 years from now, the ability to destroy the universe? It is so
> > > senseless!
>
> > > On May 19, 4:59 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > "...we will still be here to pick up and move on." - SD
>
> > > > Slip, your faith is laudable! And, we now have not only the means to
> > > > destroy all life on the planet (atomic, hydrogen, neutron etc. bombs
> > > > and associated radiation), but even more rapid delivery systems for
> > > > plagues.
> > > > While the cartoon of the bearded guy with the sign "The end is near!"
> > > > is iconic, humanitie's "advances" have brought us, along with mass
> > > > ignorance to what, at any time at all, will prove to be the end of us
> > > > all.
> > > > Yes, there are arguments against all of this...yes, most arise out of
> > > > the same ignorance, sadly.
>
> > > > On May 19, 11:14 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > You would think that we have a short time left in view of dwindling
> > > > > resources but we are still transitioning to renewable resources and
> > > > > making strides in conservation and environmental issues. It is
> > > > > typical of humanity to push to the brink before really making the
> > > > > necessary changes. The riots, yes, the wars, yes but I think life
> > > > > will push on regardless of the quality. Even if we have to live like
> > > > > 2025 L.A in Terminator or desolation in Road Warrior, we will still be
> > > > > here to pick up and move on.
>
> > > > > On May 19, 10:13 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > *** chuckles @ SD's apparent humor, goes to read his horoscope ***
>
> > > > > > In fact, as resources continue to dwindle for an ever increasing
> > > > > > number of people on the planet, it is clear that there will be
> > > > > > enormous strife. . . including not mere riots, but major war. All of
> > > > > > this is quite predictable...has been for a long time. My guess is
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > humanity has a short time left.
>
> > > > > > On May 18, 11:10 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Sometimes we have a feeling that something is going to happen but
> > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > often we just forget all about it, that is until something we
> > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > about actually happens.
>
> > > > > > > Do you have any predictions, intuitions, impressions, visions or
> > > > > > > inklings of events during the next few years?
>
> > > > > > > War? Economy? Famine, drought? Floods, tsunami, earthquakes,
> > > > > > > volcanic eruptions? Civil rioting and upheaval? Celebrity
> > > > > > > deaths?
> > > > > > > Terrorist attacks?
> > > > > > > Assassinations? Peace or Chaos? Anything?
>
> > > > > > > These are not necessarily predictions but just some inklings. I
> > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > trouble brewing with N Korea. I sense a problem with Venezuela's
> > > > > > > Hugo
> > > > > > > Chavez
> > > > > > > Rioting in Oakland, CA. Kirk Douglas, Mickey Rooney and Liz
> > > > > > > Taylor. Major quake in Southern Cal. Drought in the southwest
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > flooding in the northeast. Something big in Africa, not sure
> > > > > > > what.
> > > > > > > Another devastating hurricane in the Gulf affecting Louisiana and
> > > > > > > Florida. That woman from Australia in the Bali prison get's
> > > > > > > released
> > > > > > > early. Madoff dies in prison unexpectedly. A NASA disaster shuts
> > > > > > > down the program. The economy continues to flounder. Some major
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