In relation to what Rig's said about 'luck/fortune' - I believe that
these to things to not come into play at all. Survial to me is more a
question of knowledge or lack of it - Lets say we are a small group in
a jungle starving, one of the group members sees a berry bush and eats
the berries and prompty dies, the rest if us (hopefully) would from
the knowledge gained not eat the these berries. This keeps happening
with various other bushes, however the surviours are learning what not
to eat - Until finally someones eats from a bush that does not kill
and the others who remain with him now know of at least one thing they
can eat.

I know that there a few holes in my little story there, however it is
what came to mind to explain myself - mmm where was I - ah luck and
fortune play no role for the members of the straving group - Just
knowledge (those who waited until a safe bush was found) and lack of
knowledge (those who ate and died). Mind you my idea of luck and
fortune may differ from yours - I guess like evething else it is a
matter of personal perspective.

On Jul 16, 3:45 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Survival is also a question of luck/Fortune. Geography/food supply/
> well-regulated society versus a wasteland/drought&famine/ongoing
> warfare. Add genetic strengths, education, personal health- mental and
> physical, the ability to adapt to change, etc. There is no reason
> behind this selection, actually. If you consider current history we
> might be elsewhere facing far greater tests, problems and possible
> extinction.
>
> On Jul 14, 12:35 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >         As I understand one basic premise of the theory of evolution,
> > survival of the fittest prefers individuals that live longer, breed
> > faster and leave more progeny. Yet two traits we possess – sleep and
> > intelligence – seem to contradict this preference.
> >         Sleep works against survival for, while sleeping, an individual can
> > hardly defend against attack and consumption. So evolution would seem
> > to have selected those individuals needing less and less sleep, until
> > sleep would no longer be needed. Yet today, maybe one billion years
> > after speciation began, we still need our 8 hours of sleep.
> >         Intelligence also seems to disprove the all-encompassing scope of
> > evolution. Those individuals better able to recall experience and
> > predict the future would have an advantage in food-gathering, mate
> > selection and progeny protection. Yet we hardly seem smarter today
> > than humans living thousands of years ago.
> >         Are these traits exceptions to evolution? Are there other 
> > exceptions?
> > I expect so. But no one discusses them. Why not?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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