Not the single Mom, mind you, but her genetic information.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Holy Moses!  We're breeding ourselves into extinction!  Somebody call
> 911!!!
>
> The biggest reason I have one kid and not 3 or 4 is the price tag.  I
> do love kids.  One son's education costs vs. that of 2 or three times
> that.  Not to mention he eats like a horse.  Pretty scary with a
> recession and politicians slavering over my hard earned cash getting
> more prevalent every day.  It's interesting that single Mom with 3
> kids has a survival advantage.  What are the odds my one kid will end
> up paying taxes to support the children of these hypothetical kids of
> a single mom?  Yes, it's rhetorical and impossible to predict but a
> betting man would give it a better then 50 percent chance I'd wager.
>
> Goes back to my constant and I'm very sure annoying mantra of  'our
> social net is too wide' whine.  For the love of God, stop feeding
> hungry children or we're all doooomed!  I'm kidding of course, but it
> is a dilemma.  Or a conundrum.
>
> dj
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Chris
> Jenkins<[email protected]> wrote:
> > OK, that's a misleading title, but it'll do as a starting point. Humans
> have
> > altered the progression of Darwinian evolution because of our delineation
> of
> > sex and procreation, and yet we continue to use Darwinian terminology in
> the
> > discussion of psychosocial and biological evolution.
> >
> > 1. "Survival of the fittest" ONLY relates to procreation. Period. It does
> > not relate to physical fitness, longevity, comfortability of lifestyle,
> > attractiveness, intelligence, prowess, or wealth. It specifically relates
> to
> > the generational progression of genetic material via progeny. Therefore,
> > unlikely though it may seem...
> >
> > Single Mom of three in trailer park with three viable offspring > Bill
> Gates
> >
> > 2. While much focus is placed in our society on health as key to
> longevity,
> > longevity may actually be the antithesis to "fitness", in a Darwinian
> sense.
> > First, a shorter life cycle leads to faster progression of generations,
> > meaning in simple terms, faster evolution. This is why drosophilae are a
> > favorite of geneticists, since changes to the core structure of DNA/RNA
> can
> > be quickly (relatively speaking) tracked through several generations of
> > offspring. Second, the longer humans live, the more our DNA degrades,
> > leading to the predictably more common occurrencess of cancer of all
> types:
> >
> >
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8460632?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_PMC&linkpos=2&log$=citedinpmcarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
> >
> > or for something a little simpler:
> >
> >
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1944386?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=3&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
> >
> > With humans living longer lives, and the growing western trend of
> > procreating later in life, an illusion of "fitness" is created and
> > maintained, while passing on degraded genetic material, the negative
> impact
> > of which won't be seen for more than a century due to the length of the
> > modern life cycle.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > >
> >
>
>  >
>

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