Fran! *exasperated sigh*

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:05 PM, frantheman <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> I'm gonna get a bit subversive here, gruff!
>
> It IS possible to do ad hom here - it's a question of style. A good
> insult should be like a very sharp, very thin stiletto, rather than a
> large blunt instrument. It can inserted subtly, casually, but oh-so-
> planned into good argument. At its best, it gets the mods chuckling
> and, given the sharp thinness of the instrument (and the accuracy of
> its delivery), barely any surface to grip and subsequently admonish
> you with. If it concerns the mental capacity of the one it's directed
> at, one may even have the added pleasure of realising that everyone
> else got it, except the target him/herself :-)
>
> Francis
>
> On 7 Aug., 19:10, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Neither one of us practice ad hom attacks on a regular basis or even
> > irregularly.  But occasionally there comes a time when one's rubber
> > band snaps at the idiocy and lamebraindedness of some posters and we
> > do something stupid.  I apologize for it but after all, it's only
> > human.
> >
> > On Aug 6, 12:26 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Way to go? Really? Exactly how many times and ways do we have to define
> 'ad
> > > hominem' before the definition sinks in?
> >
> > > Slip, your entire paragraph is in blatant violation of our posting
> > > guidelines, and to tell the truth, I'm kind of tired of having to use
> the
> > > phrase "posting guidelines". I'll say it one more time:  THE IDEA. NOT
> THE
> > > PERSON.
> >
> > > Here's an example:
> >
> > > GOOD: Slip, your post's content was entirely unacceptable. The usage of
> > > perjoratives which directly target the speaker are clearly against our
> > > rules, and it's beyond baseless...hell, I'd call it one giant flying
> leap of
> > > an assumption to take someone's recycled altruisms and pseudo eastern
> > > mysticism and correlate them to a cult leader. The complete lack of any
> form
> > > of logic or rational thought in this post borders on incoherent
> misanthropic
> > > venting. Surprising, given some of your previous insights.
> >
> > > BAD: Jesus christ, Slip, what are you fucking retarded? How many goddam
> > > times do I have to say we don't tolerate ad hominems on this board
> before
> > > people take this crap seriously? Do I just have to start dropping the
> ban
> > > hammer everytime some ass clown like yourself pops off wise because
> they
> > > don't see the point of another member's philosophy? You act like a
> freakin
> > > five year old ADD class clown fartin in school for laughs!
> >
> > > See the difference? Tinker has been put on moderation for ad hom.
> Others
> > > have been warned. You've been warned now too. It's one thing to have a
> > > posting style which aggressively challenges AN IDEA. It's another
> entirely
> > > to directly and specifically berate a person, in no uncertain terms.
> >
> > > Applauding it is no better, Gruff. Can we all go back to being grown
> ups
> > > now?
> >
> > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Heh heh heh.  Way to go Slip.  <applause>  What poor Tink denies
> > > > vehemently is that it's about him and nothing but him.  When he
> > > > realizes that and perhaps changes his message he may begin to get
> some
> > > > interest that he can hold on to.
> >
> > > > On Aug 3, 9:18 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Come on Tinker!!  Your another wannabe evangelist purporting to
> have
> > > > > some secret knowledge that people can ascribe to.  You are nothing
> > > > > more than the inception of a "Jim Jones", "Rev. Moon" style
> persona.
> > > > > You have nothing, never gave us anything, talk in circles fast
> enough
> > > > > to cause a cyclone and lead on the new comers with your smoke and
> > > > > mirrors amazement.  Did you ever work at a carnival? I think you
> would
> > > > > be real good at it. You have been here long enough to see you
> haven't
> > > > > reached first base.  You have a bit of knowledge?  ssssssssssssh!
> > > > > Don't let anyone know!  It's a big secret!
> >
> > > > > On Aug 3, 10:56 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > BB, I have a bit of knowledge.
> > > > > > That is all that is necessary to "promote it".
> >
> > > > > > I don't believe you have any understanding of how the fear of the
> > > > > > unknown affects you. That's another subject and it is 'not
> simple'.
> >
> > > > > > It's not that I'm enjoying anything, the awesomeness activates
> the
> > > > > > fear of the unknown.
> >
> > > > > > "Teach the World a Word", Means establish a point of common
> > > > > > understanding as the beginning point of Unity.
> >
> > > > > > That is the explanation. That is all of it. Quit trying to make
> it
> > > > > > something confusing.
> >
> > > > > > peace & Love
> >
> > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:35 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:22 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > BB, I am not in any "state".
> > > > > > > > I simply have a working model of the force (of god/energy)
> relative
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > the Society of Earth.
> >
> > > > > > > But if you are not "in it" and "using it" and "understand it
> from
> > > > that
> > > > > > > perspective" then how can you promote it?
> >
> > > > > > > > The reason you are not seeing it is the fear of the unknown
> causing
> > > > > > > > confusion.
> >
> > > > > > > I admit that the fear of the unknown is something I do not feel
> that
> > > > > > > comfortable with.  On the internet I don't have much fear in
> > > > > > > expressing myself, but in real life I am much more timid.
> >
> > > > > > > > This shit is awesome!!! It's fantastic, incredible and
> unfucking
> > > > > > > > believable.
> >
> > > > > > > I am so glad you are enjoying it.
> >
> > > > > > > > What I am proposing is very simple, "Teach the World a Word".
> > > > > > > > Why are you so confused about it? (see the paragraph above
> :-))
> >
> > > > > > > Because I have no idea why "teaching a word" is such a
> monumental
> > > > > > > thing. It is nice to learn a new word, but I can thing of a
> thousand
> > > > > > > other things that would have more "impact" on people.   You may
> see
> > > > > > > it, but I don't.  I am the type of person that needs
> explanations.
> > > > > > > The clearer the better. Examples seem to work really good for
> me.
> > > > > > > Maybe not for you.
> >
>

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