Interesting BB.

I think that all of your points can and probably do effect all of us
at differant times, and I'm gonna have to agree somewhat with Don.
It's all about the me, even those who may disagree with that statement
are 'guilty' of it.

That is, the reasons why we are here are ultimatly 'selfish', for our
own education, or to push our own agenda, or to use discusion to
better understand our own minds, or whatever.  Myself I use this place
as a testing board for any ideas or epiphany's I may have, or to
better understand my own reasoning, to find out the validity of my
thoughts, yes yes, I use all of you as resources, and of course I
value some of your input more than others.

Who?  You may ask, but ahhh I try to be a gental-man, so I shall not
tell!

On 12 Aug, 03:28, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's cool! Thanks :-)
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> peace & Love
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> > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:19:36 -0700
> > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: The great experiment
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
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> > Don, looks like you have new fan!
>
> > You might need some form of instructional manual to learn how to play.
>
> >http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/629c52bd-257b-4d5...
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> > On Aug 11, 6:39 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Me, me, me, me, meeeeee.  The most important Person on this blue orb.
> > > Everyone else is here for my personal amusement.  So I decree.  With a
> > > smidgen of possibility and hopefulness of gaining a little insight
> > > into the socialist mind.  Of which Mind's Eye is a veritable haven of
> > > idealistic do-goodery. (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
> > > Add that I get the opportunity to regale members with my unique wit
> > > and indelible charm delivered with my signature humbleness and
> > > literary aplomb .   The really nice thing about this group is that
> > > when I fall short of these goals I am usually given the benefit of the
> > > doubt and not unfairly or too severely chastised.  They are perceptive
> > > enough to notice I'm enjoying myself and leave me to it.  Although I
> > > must say sometimes I'm a tad disappointed when no one wants to play...
>
> > > dj
>
> > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM, BB47<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >  Does anyone else find this group a fascinating  social experiment?
> > > > Never in history has there been this particular form of
> > > > communication.  People that might be thousands of miles apart, tucked
> > > > in their room, unseen, yet can voice their deepest held opinions  to
> > > > a group of  strangers, more or less.  And in just the few years this
> > > > has been going on, it has quickly started to evolve.  Where will that
> > > > evolution lead?   I can see changes occurring already in just in the
> > > > few years I have been doing this.  The defenses, the tactics, it is an
> > > > anthropologist’s dream in here.  Will it change over time?  Where do
> > > > you see it leading?
>
> > > >     There are members that want certain people removed from the
> > > > group.  Perfectly reasonable.  But it is obviously still not resolved
> > > > just where to draw that line.   Leave it to the moderators?   Vote the
> > > > member out?  I wonder what would happen if we voted members out?
> > > > Would that result in a “common denominator” membership?  In other
> > > > words, every member thinks every other member is good to have around?
> > > > Might be something to consider.  Might be a small group too.  Might
> > > > get boring.  Who knows?
>
> > > >     Some want the “disruptive” or “inane”  removed.  People who are
> > > > perceived to not “add any value” to the group by the individual,  for
> > > > whatever reason, and  I can appreciate  that.   They find it too much
> > > > of an annoyance to skip over those people.  It is pretty easy to do,
> > > > but I suppose if there is a response to that “disrupter”, that it
> > > > could ruin the “flow” of a “good” discussion.  Maybe you should just
> > > > have a group of people that everyone considers “a good
> > > > conversation?”   Something to consider.
>
> > > >     I would be perfectly happy to be put up on the block, by the way
> > > > Voted in or out.
>
> > > > I have noticed the following “types” of people on these boards:
>
> > > > 1)  The skip over people.  These people rather quickly decide who they
> > > > care to read and those they don’t.  This seems like a good approach.
> > > > Even though you are ignoring members,  oh well.  If you are ignoring
> > > > members, why not dump them?  Just  a thought.  Does democracy work?
> > > > Is this group a democracy?
>
> > > > 2)      Then there are people who actually TELL you that they skip over
> > > > everything you write.  What a lovely personality trait that is!
> > > > Ignoring you is not enough, they have to tell you they are ignoring
> > > > you, that you are so worth ignoring, and that the other members need
> > > > to know this, and that anything that might come out of your head is
> > > > worthless as far as they are concerned.  Would you suggest that person
> > > > just kill themselves?  Being so worthy of being ignored by all?
>
> > > > 3)  Then there are the “battle choosers.”   These are an admirable
> > > > bunch.  They post very selectively.  They choose when and where with
> > > > precision,   Is it because they are wise?  Quite possible.  Is it
> > > > because they like the “slam dunk” opportunities?  It is possible.   Is
> > > > it the least risk to their “reputation?”   I can’t rule that out.  The
> > > > more exposure, the more chance to be shot down.  But honestly?  I
> > > > think these people are just wiser than others.  Certainly more than
> > > > I.   I jump in on a whim.
>
> > > > 4)  Then there is the group member who talks “to the group” actually
> > > > more than they are talking to the person they are responding to!  What
> > > > a bizarre concept in communication when you think about it.  Now, we
> > > > all do that to some degree, but when does it become a total lack of
> > > > person to person communication?  When we are not really talking to the
> > > > person we are talking to?  Seems like a strange part of the evolution
> > > > to me!  I find something sad and detached about that.  Some part of
> > > > humanity lost.  We are detached enough as it is.   Are these people
> > > > overly concerned with their reputation as well?  You tell me.  Or is
> > > > that what this group really is:  a place to talk to the whole group.
> > > > The individuals are secondary, and often just plain annoying.
>
> > > > And just what are the “reasons”  why you are here?  To gain insight?
> > > > To give it?  Entertainment?  The need to share your thoughts?   The
> > > > desire to set others straight?  Test your opinions?  Just a social
> > > > outlet?  What? Maybe in accepting members we should have check boxes
> > > > next to your “reasons for joining the group”  Wouldn’t that help? I
> > > > think it would!   Then, those could be compared to what you actually
> > > > DO in the group to see if they match your stated objectives.  Talk
> > > > about being called out!  I think it would be of great help to the
> > > > group to hear what each members objectives and reasons for being in
> > > > the group. I would love nothing more to see each members checklist.
> > > > We can list all the reasons you can think of, come on, it would be fun
> > > > AND informative!  (I am checking off that box!)  Are any of you here
> > > > for fun? Raise your hands?
>
> > > > Members are constantly being accused of these “goals”  by other
> > > > members.  “You just want to stir things up” or  “All I hear from you
> > > > is me, me ,me”
> > > > ( I would like to politely remind these members that many spend a
> > > > great deal of time in here with one form or another of “me,me,me”)
> > > > If you insist on accusing a person of their motives, than at least ask
> > > > what their stated goals in the group are up front.  Then you have a
> > > > basis.  Otherwise, it is just your expert opinion on reading people,
> > > > and that skill seems to vary, and it is after all, just another
> > > > opinion.
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