BB: "I want the brutal truth. I always considered that the best kind,
the only kind."

On 22 Aug., 08:15, facilitator <[email protected]> wrote:
> I understand the rant but I am unsure of the question.
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> On Aug 22, 2:01 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > I'm going to answer in your style, BB, so ...
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> > Are the trumpets ready? The dancing girl's? The guy in the Elvis
> > constume with the microphone? Ok ...
>
> > So, you want the truth, do you? The whole, plain, twenty-four hour
> > day, seven-day week, unvarnished truth?  Are you sure you can handle
> > this?
>
> > 1. You won't find it.
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> > ***
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> > 2. That doesn't matter.
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> > It's doing it, setting out on the journey to learn truth - or wisdom,
> > the term I prefer to use - keeps bringing you closer, giving you new
> > insights, making you stop and wonder at the beautiful complexity of
> > life. It's its own reward.
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> > Francis
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> > On 22 Aug., 07:32, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > >     Relativism is something I don’t understand. I hear it often in
> > > here.    The way I understand it is that cultural relativism and moral
> > > relativism or “any”  kind of relativism poses things as “true” only in
> > > a certain context.  I know this is back to philosophy 101 for you
> > > folks but I am asking you to help me understand this relative thing,
> > > because I just don’t get it.
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> > >    When I hear “well you know they do it this way in India”  I think
> > > to myself,  yeah, well the Inca threw children into volcanoes, does
> > > that make it RIGHT?  I am not concerned with how they do it in Mumbai
> > > unless it remains true in some bar in Minneapolis at closing time.
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> > >    Moral and cultural relativism comes right out and tells you to your
> > > face “there is no objective truth”
> > > Well I an stunned!  If I am going to spend my life “searching” for
> > > something, well damitol , I want it to be the TRUTH!  The ABSOLUTE
> > > truth.  Why on earth would anybody want to settle for less?   “You
> > > picked door number 4...BB!  While we are saying it’s sort of true, it
> > > is only valid in Ethiopia, and only under starry lit skies on certain
> > > holidays past 7pm, but thanks for playing…..what do we have for him
> > > Johnny?”
>
> > >    I want to know what is RIGHT AND WRONG…..period.  I want to know
> > > WHAT TO DO people!  Not the version that changes with a warmer
> > > climate.  I want to know the truth.  The truth  means that it can’t be
> > > wrong under any circumstances.  What value is truth if it can skip off
> > > on you like a thrown pebble in a lake?
>
> > >   I realize that "absolute" truth is….well…close…. to impossible.
> > > Really close.  Like detecting gravity waves close.  It may not….(I
> > > don’t even want to SAY it)…..it may not…even…..exist.   WELL THAT
> > > SUCKS AS FAR AS I AM CONCERED!  How can someone live with something
> > > like that?  How do you sleep at night?  Accepting a pseudo-truth?
> > > That is like lying to yourself.  That is like when you look in the
> > > mirror with that angle of your face that you use? With that expression
> > > that makes you “look pretty good?”  That is what relativism is to me.
> > > That is the best example I have for how I see relativism.
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> > >    I want the brutal truth. I always considered that the best kind,
> > > the only kind.
>
> > >     I want the un-cut unedited raw pure clear clean stabbing lightning
> > > burn searing blow through your body supernova
> > >  hi-def symphony 18 year old girl in a bikini jump off the punk rock
> > > stage arms outstretched swan dive into  knowing feeling stroking
> > > embracing licking the first bite of ice cream kiss the light warm
> > > penetrating perfect swing blast pop your head light switch labyrinth
> > > laid open streaming disc drive access paralyzing surge of calm though
> > > the voltage of the pads when they yell “CLEAR”
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> > >   I am not going to get that am I- Hide quoted text -
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