/Uumm does Brazil urgently require plastic crud?/ Just trying out these new sarcasm errrr ummm ohhh yeah 'Intenticons'? ;¬)
On 1 Sep, 15:08, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I saw someone on TV a few weeks back arguing that Brazil can grow all > the UK's food and that we should throw in with the free trade notions > of producing more and more plastic crud with superior design to > exchange for it. This is all dismally dumb. > > On 1 Sep, 10:28, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Wow you really have a bee in your bonnet about any form of Solialism > > huh! > > > That aside though and since you have asked for critiqche of the logic > > here then let me start with this: > > > 'Governments are ultimate authorities once they are established. And > > any “cause” the government dreams up, well this becomes the “ends” > > in effect, because the citizens of the country are rallied to “serve” > > that cause, and once they commit to it, they are under obligation to > > “serve their country.”' > > > There is a false premise here. I am not 'obliged' to serve my country > > if I do not wish to do so in this capacity. > > > There is also the question of whether the anology of conscription into > > the armed forces and payment of taxes into a goverement system is a > > valid one, I do not think it is. > > > >This is true in any other cause as well. In socialism for example > > > the cause is “we take care of those in need” and the key phrase is the > > > same as in any war, and that is the word “sacrifice.” > > > Can you show what sacrifice there is in the payment of taxes? > > > >The people who would like to see everyone taken > > > care of do not care much about the means. > > > Blatantly false, and your opinion only. > > > This only shows they are > > > > using the philosophy, as they only like to talk about the cause. The > > > people who believe money is evil? Their government requires it in > > > vast amounts for their own cause and they don’t even see the > > > contradiction. They cannot come up with a replacement for the money > > > concept perhaps because it is not important for them to do so, it is > > > merely a “means” which is not only secondary but not a consideration > > > compared to their cause. > > > By 'the people' I guess you mean me, as I am the only one that I'm > > aware of that has said anything like this. > > > I do not belive the money is evil, money is a think, it is like me > > saying that my sofa is evil, not that just does not make sense. > > > I belive that the concept of money has and contiunes to bring great > > evil into the world, I agree with the bible that the love of money is > > the root of evil, and I have already said that I have no idea how to > > initiate the (what I have already admited is a foolish flight of > > fantasy) idea, so lets not get too hung up on that one. > > > So there realy is no contridiction to see. > > > Now to the heart of the matter. > > > You agree that paying taxes is fair, so it seems that your only > > problem is the use of such taxes in programs of social benifit to > > thoese that need the aid of sociaty. And perhaps the amount of taxes > > that the rich pay? > > > Seems pretty selfish does it not?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
