Wend that brew my way if you would my good man, and in return I'll
promise not to take the piss outa your grey bonce for at least a
month, honest guv!

On 3 Sep, 14:36, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I've often suggested, the cycles have come before, and will come again,
> and we humans can adapt or die. :)
> Speaking of which, I've a fresh batch of magic brew steeping now, Arch.
> Shall I save you a cup? Best swallowed while warm, and quickly, with a
> dollop of honey after.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The Eocene ran from 56 million to 34 million years ago, much longer
> > than humans have existed unless science is just a Bishop Usher
> > memeory. Geological evidence from the early and middle part of this
> > period offers troubling news: the average temperature in the tropics
> > at this time could have been as high as 40°C while the poles were at
> > temperatures of 15 or 20°C. None of our climate models accounts for
> > how this "Eocene hothouse" might have arisen (New Scientist, 21 June
> > 2008, p 34).  This is bad news for life on Earth. For a start, any
> > tweaks we make to our climate models to account for it will produce
> > scarier predictions of warming. Secondly, it suggests that there is no
> > feedback mechanism that will stabilise a warming world against runaway
> > climate change. And third, there is geological evidence for plant
> > extinctions in the Eocene.  If the modern Earth goes the same way and
> > plants in the tropics start dying, that will provide yet another way
> > for atmospheric carbon dioxide levels to rise faster. The Eocene
> > hothouse anomaly suggests that our worst-case scenario is probably
> > optimistic to say the least.  Human contributions have been puny in
> > comparison.  The only place safe to sun-bathe may well be Santa's back
> > garden and the elves have already staked out the sun beds as surely as
> > early-rising Germans in Majorca.  This makes me wonder whether the
> > secret primaries are politicians go through involve such matters as
> > pissing in the wind contests.
>
> > I'm agnostic in the sense I can't disprove the existence of some kind
> > of god (to be honest I think 'something' we don't construe well is
> > likely and is likely to have nothing to do with our fables around the
> > world).  Information such as the above and a lot of basic science we
> > are all part of is at bottom what I believe in.  The elves, of course,
> > only appear when Chris and I share his magic brew whilst teasing
> > Flying Harringtons on the days we devote to world domination in our
> > off-shore bunker created by skimming Craig's massive profits as owner
> > of this group (some believe Craig is only a fictitious Patsy we have
> > set up in case the IRS rumble us).  In light of the above, there are
> > real questions about Dawkins telling us god probably doesn't exist and
> > we should just get on with life.  What signs do we show of a form of
> > lie that takes the real information above seriously?- Hide quoted text -
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