So really here you are edging towards biological advantage coupled with exposure, which we can surmise is almost equal to practice?
On 16 Sep, 14:18, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh I am sure practice is needed, or at least very helpful. I'm sure > that Mozart, Bach, Beethoven and Beckham practiced themselves silly. > > Why some have talent and some do not is obviously related to nature > and nurture, the right genes at the right time with the right > environment. Heck, even diet and the mother's diet while in the womb > probably play a role. Environment seems to be important especially > with music, most great composers (classics and pop) have at least one > musical parent and lots of positive exposure when young. I don't think > you can pin it down to just a few specific things, it is more > complicated. > > 2009/9/16 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > But I wonder if you started at the age of 3? > > > Anyhoo this is all still supposition and opinion from the both of us. > > > Let us ask then, if talent exists what is it's mechinism, what governs > > it, what except practice makes David Beckham a better kicker of the > > ball than I, and perhaps even more importantly how many times have you > > heard of a talented individual not putting in the reqiured practice? > > > On 16 Sep, 13:50, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm not sure that 4 years is enough time. In any event at the age o5 > >> Mozart was taken to a cathedral where he listened to a number of > >> pieces of music. He then went home and wrote one of them down, having > >> only heard it the once. I think that is hard to practice. :) > > >> He actually started learning at 3 and his sister later said that he > >> was identifying thirds and attempting composition before the age of 5. > > >> I could practice a lifetime and not achieve a tenth of what he did in > >> a few young years. > > >> 2009/9/16 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > > >> > Ahhh but I think that perhaps he may have had enough time. > > >> > He did not attend school, he was instead taught by his father himself > >> > amongst other things a musician. > > >> > Lets say that he started to learn music at 4, young enough not to have > >> > picked up bad learning habits, and at a stage where the mind is very > >> > much conducive to the learning experiance. How many hours a day did > >> > his father drum music into him I wonder? > > >> > On 16 Sep, 12:38, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I don't think Mozart had enough time to practice to exhibit as he did > >> >> by the age of 8. So, yes, some people have talent and some have > >> >> extraordinary talent. > > >> >> 2009/9/16 Lee <[email protected]>: > > >> >> > Well does it? > > >> >> > I say no, practice makes pefect, but what do you think?- Hide quoted > >> >> > text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
