Ever seen the movie Pi, Pat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1sZSCz47w

On 24 Sep., 18:38, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 24 Sep, 16:43, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Emmet Fox, I think, did the best job that I have seen in explaining
> > the ten commandments as diagrams for consciousness living.  In his
> > book the Ten Commandments, he give us a more mystical interpretation
> > that the commandments are not telling us what we should not do, but
> > what we cannot do if we are fully living god consciousness.   "we
> > cannot keep anything for which we do not have the corresponding
> > consciousness."  For example, take his interpretation of thou shalt
> > not steal, which he says, is actually, thou cannot steal.  We cannot
> > steal because there is no separation between self and other, or self
> > and God.  He explains it like this:
>
> > "the sooner we realize the fact (that we cannot steal) the sooner we
> > give up trying.  When we give up trying to steal, then we shall begin
> > to have our own.  We shall come into our own rights, our own property
> > - using the word property in the widest sense of the conditions that
> > belong to us, and when we get that, liberation will not be very far
> > off."
>
>    Not bad.  I would say that we cannot steal because, to God, all
> that occurs is something moving from one place to another (my pocket
> to the thief's pocket, e.g.).  However, the fact that the word 'Shall/
> Shalt' was used in the original, to me, implies two things:
>   1)  God is obliging us to not steal
>   2)  We should, in our own hearts, feel obliged to not steal
>
>   Point 1 is true for the reason I gave above, in that, to God, 'all
> stealing is' is just moving matter from one place to another.  Point 2
> will become true when people realise that, as was said above, we are
> all a function of one and there is only 'that which exists'.  If a
> person feels that they require the use of something, they should ask
> to use it rather than steal it.  Once the hearts of men change, their
> actions will.
>
> > I wouldn't rewrite them.  I think they are complete and perfect as is,
> > depending on how you interpret them.
>
>    I wouldn't rewrite them either, not only are the perfect the way
> they are, there are so many levels of truth in them (especially when
> you know Hebrew and Kabbalah).  Besides, there's the commandment of
> not adding to nor subtracting from the Torah.  As, to do so, labels
> one as a false prophet.
>
> > On Sep 22, 10:32 am, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Not too long ago I posed to some friends the challenge to come up with
> > > ten commandments for living the good life. All had to be secular. To
> > > get things rolling these are mine –
>
> > >       1.don’t kill
> > >       2.don’t steal
> > >       3.enjoy life
> > >       4.love
> > >       5.listen
> > >       6.use your talents
> > >       7.live responsibly
> > >       8.keep your body healthy
> > >       9.gather regularly with friends
> > >       10.think about things
>
> > > One friend proposed these –
>
> > >       1. Follow the golden rule.
> > >       2. You can't change others, only yourself.
> > >       3. If you meet 3 assholes in one day, you better take a look at
> > > who the real asshole is.
> > >       4. Don't burn any bridges.
> > >       5. Work to live, not the other way around.
> > >       6. Live consciously as much as possible.
> > >       7. Take time off from living consciously to RELAX.
> > >       8. Always have a hammock readily available.
> > >       9. Keep and protect boundaries.
> > >      10. Attend 12 Step meetings often.
>
> > > Another (and more practical) friend suggests these -
> > >       1.Live
> > >       2.Love
> > >       3.Laugh
> > >       4.Never wash socks together; you’re bound to lose one.
> > >       5.Have your ATM card swiped and ready to go before the checker
> > > is done scanning your     items.
> > >       6.Don’t take a phone call when I’m standing in front of you
> > > ready to pay
> > >       7.If you get in your car ready to leave a parking spot, how
> > > about you go ahead and back out some time in this millennium
> > >       8.Don’t text and drive
> > >       9.Dance like nobody is watching.
> > >      10.Don’t forward e-mails that I must reply to or I’ll have bad
> > > luck, and no, Bill Gates isn’t sharing his fortune by forwarding this
> > > e-mail.
>
> > > What would be your ten?  Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
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